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I'll say this.... they remove the sand bags for the big races... Moto America, Moto GP and such.

If Rossi or anyone in the pros ran off and flipped and broke a leg because of a sand bag... they would not return to the track.

They do not get alot of rain out their so the end result is .... effort.

The effort it takes to deploy and remove sand bags.

Track day and race orgs deploying the air fences is not an easy task... matter of fact it might be harder than dealing with sand bags. Sandbags you can have 1 to 2 pick up truck ride and toss them out and goto the next.

Air fence have to be dragged out..big and heavy, then filled with air, strapped down in place. Its a huge effort.


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Could this lawsuit affect track days and club racing? - April 6, 2018, 03:18 PM

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I'll say this.... they remove the sand bags for the big races... Moto America, Moto GP and such.

If Rossi or anyone in the pros ran off and flipped and broke a leg because of a sand bag... they would not return to the track.

They do not get alot of rain out their so the end result is .... effort.

The effort it takes to deploy and remove sand bags.

Track day and race orgs deploying the air fences is not an easy task... matter of fact it might be harder than dealing with sand bags. Sandbags you can have 1 to 2 pick up truck ride and toss them out and goto the next.

Air fence have to be dragged out..big and heavy, then filled with air, strapped down in place. Its a huge effort.


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This incident was in the wet season. They don't run the races in the wet season.The bags are put away for whole months during the dry racing season, so they are not just removed for the big races. Also no one at a track day is even within 5 seconds of a MotoGP lap time (more likely 10) and it isn't racing. Apples and oranges.


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This incident was in the wet season. They don't run the races in the wet season.The bags are put away for whole months during the dry racing season, so they are not just removed for the big races. Also no one at a track day is even within 5 seconds of a MotoGP lap time (more likely 10) and it isn't racing. Apples and oranges.
You do not have to be racing...or at speed to need to get off track.
Coming out of that corner if somone highsided in the middle of the track and you have to run off the track...even slow..shit even 5mph...

you would still hit a pile of sand bags and flip.

Safe is safe. Even if told in morning meeting... you cant control what happens in front of you.

No way if anyone had to run off a track and the safe run off had objects that put you into danger would that be ... fine.

Not sure worthy.... but it start to defeat the whole purpose of safety and going to the track.

From what I remember in the article, they said it had not rained in a while.

and the contract from track to organization states its up to the track to determine track conditions and safety by inspection.

If its dry... no call for rain... no bags are needed.

If you get a flash storm out of nowhere, then the bikes would come in anyway and determin if rain tires are going on and track director can deploy bags if needed.

THis is my opinion of course.... but i feel the bags being out on a dry day is more neglect than "just in case it rains"


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