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Installed my bazzaz, getting misfires. - May 17, 2011, 08:44 PM

Fairly confident that all connections are in correctly, and in the right place but im getting a rough idle, misfire. Sounds like a V-twin, or when you pull out a spark plug.

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May 17, 2011, 09:03 PM

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Fairly confident that all connections are in correctly, and in the right place but im getting a rough idle, misfire. Sounds like a V-twin, or when you pull out a spark plug.

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Did you remove any vacuum lines? What bike is it for?
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May 17, 2011, 09:06 PM

Also double check the model number and make sure they didn't send you the wrong unit. It has happened a few times.
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May 17, 2011, 09:16 PM

Forgot I removed my bike out of my sig.

ZX10.

Didnt need to, other than the airbox and they were reinstalled. I will go double check real fast.


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May 17, 2011, 09:36 PM

One of the biggest mistakes installing the Bazzaz on the 08-10 ZX10R is puting the throttle posistion sensor on the wrong one. (TPS).

most times everyone put it on the secondary TPS. This sits a little above frame height. The one you want is the main TPS and to get to this one you have to look under the frame at a upward direction and a little 4ward. its near the engine mount but hidden by the frame.


look at the right side next to the throttle bodies. grey plug...thats the main one...this engine dont have the secondary butterflys in that sets a little above the frame.
its ubber tight..




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May 17, 2011, 09:37 PM

Correct unit, All vaccume lines are good. Literally just pulled off the tank and airbox and checked them out. I actually thought this was it, because your post made me run back through in my head and I realized I didnt connect the one at the front of the airbox. Didnt fix it though.


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Von, is it the grey one, or black one? According to the service manual, the lower one (black one) was the main one. I connected to the black, not the grey.


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Von, is it the grey one, or black one? According to the service manual, the lower one (black one) was the main one. I connected to the black, not the grey.
Yeah the lower one...
this isnt my picture so I can remember the colors and dont want to run down and take mines apart lol.

just ordered another Bazzaz for the gen 4.

You did start the wire harness from the right hand side also...right?
Bazzaz is the bomb...but man..its specific how it goes on.


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Yeah the lower one...
this isnt my picture so I can remember the colors and dont want to run down and take mines apart lol.

just ordered another Bazzaz for the gen 4.

You did start the wire harness from the right hand side also...right?
Bazzaz is the bomb...but man..its specific how it goes on.
Yeah, I ran it down the right side. Although, the instructions do say left side.

The install instruction suck. The tell you to run that lower yellow tabbed sensor off of the #1 cycle cylinder. How many joe blows know that? Then the top injectors are ran opposit, but there is not directive to do that. I just realized it because of the extra sensor that needs to be plugged in, and it wouldn't reach start at cylinder 1.

Edit* Clarify what you mean by, start the harness on the right side?


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Sounds like you know what you are doing....so im just throwing everything out.

made sure it was on the lower Injectors and not the top ones?
main lower TPS (you did)
harness to injectors start from the right side...going left...


plug it up to the lap top and check everthing...
TPS posistion.
RPMs

if the TPS is correct you will get a reading...if wrong it will not move.



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Also here is the TC Bazzaz install that someone did on the ten board.
I havent read all of it but it might come in handy also...

Bazzaz Traction control installed - Kawasaki ZX-10R.net


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Sounds like you know what you are doing....so im just throwing everything out.

made sure it was on the lower Injectors and not the top ones?
main lower TPS (you did)
harness to injectors start from the right side...going left...


plug it up to the lap top and check everthing...
TPS posistion.
RPMs

if the TPS is correct you will get a reading...if wrong it will not move.

Ok, Good stuff Von. TPS (we say is correct) but im getting no reading. As soon as I turn the bike off, I get a slight split reading. Im getting a reading for the RPM.

Lower injectors I went left to right (bank 1 starting left). I did this because according to the service manual, the first bank is on the left side of the bike.


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Ok, Good stuff Von. TPS (we say is correct) but im getting no reading. As soon as I turn the bike off, I get a slight split reading. Im getting a reading for the RPM.

Lower injectors I went left to right (bank 1 starting left). I did this because according to the service manual, the first bank is on the left side of the bike.

ps: it only goes up when you hit the throttle....

If you are not getting a reading on the TPS then its on the wrong one. I did the same thing...its the only way I remember. Bike ran the same way also. hook it up to the laptop and I think the TPS was either not working or jumping erratic. for a test..switch them and check the lap top.

I had to tear mines apart at the track...





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I will re check it tomorrow. I wasnt hitting the throttle in an effort to keep my neighbors friendly, but like a car, I figured at startup, it wouldnt jump. I will check it, but its in the lower black, sensor. I dont understand while its idling rough.

When you hooked up your lower injector sensors. The yellow tabbed sensor, went to the far left side sensor? (if you're sitting on the bike)

BTW, zip tie them wires up lol.


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