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February 15, 2018, 07:18 PM

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With 2 Street Triples in my garage, I'm a little biased. Can't go wrong with that. I use one for the street and one is dedicated to the track. While they're not super rare, they do stand out at the track. I usually have the only naked bike in my group.
Hmm why did you opt for a street triple instead of a daytona for the track? Do you have clip ons and rearsets for the track duty ST3? How has reliability been for both of them?

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Commute and travel, then your first 3 are out. Of the options left, SV1000 with GSXR suspension. See if you can find a older multistrada.
Not a fan of the multi :/

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I'd take a Tuono over an SV1000 with gsxr suspension...just saying.
You speaking from experience? I know you've had a few bikes, including the FZ09. You had a Ducati sportbike too IIRC from personal convo

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I'd stick with Jap stuff if you are talking dollars per mile. About 15k or so is up there and maintenance can get pricey.

For my weight even the SV650 is fine for a daily and minor back roads, you probably will be ok with an SV1000.

Give it another day or so...I'm sure you'll have someone ready to recommend a carbed Superhawk 996

08+ CBR 1000RR pull very hard, arguably harder than any literbike from 5-10k rpms. Handle amazing. May not be comfy for every day commuting though. There is a kid doing 9/10ths here and he complains that the 1000 lifts in 2nd gear so he can't get WOT like everyone else.

SV650S we have done 135 on GPS with a pipe. After a tune and side bodywork we cracked 141 mph on GPS with a small rider...that really isn't that bad, pump gas stock motor. We did need to regear it.

CBR 1000RR generally will do about 180 on GPS on the limiter bone stock, give or take. Pretty good.
130-140 is not bad for an SV650...hmm maybe I should consider it more seriously. It's been at the bottom of the list.

I wanted to ask if you've done a valve adjustment on a Ducati before? If so, how much more involved is it, do they have a tendency to go out of or stay in spec, and is it more expensive than your typical valve adjustment?

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I notice the Honda VFR is not on your list. Although not a Duo or Triple, itís defintely worth considering. The VFR has long been seen as a best value for dollar all arounder in the Sport Touring space for quite a while.

Even the older V4 models are still runners known to exceed 100,000 mi ... just ask SuperChickenMonster.

Other bikes will do this or that better. Many will have more power. None will be as reliable or as well supported in the aftermarket or at the dealer level (where canít you find a Honda Motorsport dealer, Honda parts or a shop that can work on Hondaís versus Triumph, Duc, Aprilia).


If that doesnít fit the bill for you, my next recommendation would be the SV series.
I initially considered the VFR but the weight is a turn off. I REALLY liked the light weight of the daytona because it was so easy to flick back and forth. The 675 felt like a feather whereas the 955i felt like a tank, granted they're completely different. So anything heavier than the 955 is an instant no.

On the other hand, how has your Rc51 proven to be? I've looked at them in passing, I like the gear driven cams. Don't have to mess with timing chains or belts.

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I have to agree...

The ape would actually be quite reliable, but you risk remaining stranded for weeks waiting for a $15 part.

Try to find a TL1000R and you almost get the Italian ZING factor with all the good Japanese qualities
Where did you get your Aprilia parts from? I haven't seen a dealer in the DMV, perhaps I'm not looking hard enough.

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I know inline 4's ain't on your list but a do it all bike with emphasis on handling and comfort for commuting and trips might be a Gen2 FZ1. Fairly cheap. Tuned for more mid-range than a typical I4, it's comfortable, and it's bullet proof. Only caveat is I'd stay away from '06 & '07 models years as they had fueling issues that required a piggyback system to smooth things out.

Though given your size and penchant for something different I'd be very tempted to put a Tuono in the garage.
I've test ridden said FZ1 after my speed triple's engine blew and don't think it had the low down power. Still had to wait for the power to spool up a bit. i compare inline-fours to turbocharged four cylinders. Three and two cylinder engines are like naturally aspirated V8s, I love that instant torque and linear power.

Or maybe I should get a Tiger so I can keep up with you next time


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Hmm why did you opt for a street triple instead of a daytona for the track? Do you have clip ons and rearsets for the track duty ST3? How has reliability been for both of them?
A guy on 675.net was selling an 08 with the Arrow 3-1 exhaust, Ohlins shock, and Daytona forks for a great price. I intended to flip it, but then changed my mind and converted it to a track bike. It's nice being able to apply track riding skills directly to my street bike since the ergos are the same. I have stock bars and rearsets, no problems with clearance, though some people change to Daytona rearsets. Clip ons are possible, though the instrument cluster may need to be pushed forward with a different bracket.

I did have Brooks put in a set of Daytona cams though, and it will now outrun a Daytona for some reason (or at least the one I saw at NCBIKE).

No real reliability issues to speak of, though I don't think they're as bulletproof as a Japanese bike. Valve adjustments are every 12k unlike 24k on the FZ6 and FZ1. Parts are generally available and there's a very good Triumph dealer in Dulles. Things not in stock usually take about a week to get in.
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Sal, fyi 55 on the gauges to 70 mph roll from 6th took about 3 seconds.

I did it a few times.

In 5th...I got pulled over

He said I have zero points...thats how you know I'm getting old

As far as Duc, not really much more in labor than other twins per se, but many ducs require a more frequent valve adj service...add to that the add'l cost of parts (belts) and it can get pricey for your "commuter"

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February 16, 2018, 02:19 PM

there are cheap tuonos all over, and plenty of budget first gen 675s.

also, aprilia dealership, techs, and parts, in clarendon.
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You speaking from experience? I know you've had a few bikes, including the FZ09. You had a Ducati sportbike too IIRC from personal convo
I had an 04 Tuono (that gen of RSV/Tuono weren't lookers but still great bikes).

Sound is great, handing was great (I had the non R/Factory model), and the engine was stout. The only issue I ever recall folks having was a failed sprag clutch. You can get parts at www.af1racing.com
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February 17, 2018, 07:36 PM

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A guy on 675.net was selling an 08 with the Arrow 3-1 exhaust, Ohlins shock, and Daytona forks for a great price. I intended to flip it, but then changed my mind and converted it to a track bike. It's nice being able to apply track riding skills directly to my street bike since the ergos are the same. I have stock bars and rearsets, no problems with clearance, though some people change to Daytona rearsets. Clip ons are possible, though the instrument cluster may need to be pushed forward with a different bracket.

I did have Brooks put in a set of Daytona cams though, and it will now outrun a Daytona for some reason (or at least the one I saw at NCBIKE).

No real reliability issues to speak of, though I don't think they're as bulletproof as a Japanese bike. Valve adjustments are every 12k unlike 24k on the FZ6 and FZ1. Parts are generally available and there's a very good Triumph dealer in Dulles. Things not in stock usually take about a week to get in.
Sounds like a sweet set-up. Let me take it out for a spin lol

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Sal, fyi 55 on the gauges to 70 mph roll from 6th took about 3 seconds.

I did it a few times.

In 5th...I got pulled over

He said I have zero points...thats how you know I'm getting old

As far as Duc, not really much more in labor than other twins per se, but many ducs require a more frequent valve adj service...add to that the add'l cost of parts (belts) and it can get pricey for your "commuter"

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Aye word. I have to get my hands on a Duc to see if it's worth the added cost then. The 998 has been my dream bike but the 848 seems to be a more reliable Ducati.

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there are cheap tuonos all over, and plenty of budget first gen 675s.

also, aprilia dealership, techs, and parts, in clarendon.
Good call. I'll google the dealer

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I had an 04 Tuono (that gen of RSV/Tuono weren't lookers but still great bikes).

Sound is great, handing was great (I had the non R/Factory model), and the engine was stout. The only issue I ever recall folks having was a failed sprag clutch. You can get parts at www.af1racing.com
If there's an E46 M3 included in the purchase, I'll buy a Tuono

Seems that cheap Rotax motors are plentiful on ebay. I'll scrounge through AF1 to grasp the cost...

The 2004+ RSV Factory models seems to fluctutate in price. I've seen as high as $9000 to as low as $2600. Average price is $5k-ish which is close to the 848.

Tuonos are cheap as you said...I'll put the factory on the list


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February 17, 2018, 11:27 PM

we are also forgetting the 1125
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For good reason


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ZX10: 202.8 mph

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I'm never going to claim a twin is a superior machine, but for budget performance they are hard to beat, as long as you do the stator in them.
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I'm never going to claim a twin is a superior machine, but for budget performance they are hard to beat, as long as you do the stator in them.
Is this the Buell 1125CR


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While we are on the topic of SHYTEBIKES

Vstrom 650, bone stock with big dumb windshield and empty hardshell luggage

55 to 65 mph (not 70) roll in 6th took 3 seconds

Much noticeably slower pull than the SV. I don't feel like its underpowered for what it is. I do think the Ninja 300/400 might beat it in the 9/10ths though. It kinda felt like a slightly ... sliiiiighly faster GS500.

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Is this the Buell 1125CR
Or 1125R.

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Buy one and I'll let you ride the triple.
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