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February 11, 2019, 02:40 PM

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70? I'd think 55 might be possible on these, but 70 seems impossible out of a 1/8 liter 4 stroke that revs to what, 7k?

67.6 mph bone stock Grom.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BVr_EPaPVc


Not hard to break 70 mph with a sprocket and pipe.


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ZX14: 222 mph
ZX12: 229.6 mph
ZX10: 202.8 mph

ZX9: 177.6 mph
ZX6R: 180.8 mph
EX650: 130.7 mph

EX300: 114.7 mph
EX250: 122.4 mph
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February 12, 2019, 06:21 AM

That's encouraging. I think it's only a matter of time before I pick one up. Despite my cheapness, I'll probably pass on the used Grom and just pick up a Monkey straight away. Not sure if it's worth trying to deal on one over the winter or if I should just wait until the spring. Looks like all of them are just selling for MSRP.


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February 12, 2019, 06:33 AM

that top speed is atypical. You might hit that top speed, but a reliable, usually achievable speed is 55. I would base your traffic ventures on that as a top speed. At 67mph on level road, you're a fly's fart away from 60mph again.


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I'd be happy with 60. The parkway speed limit is 50 and would let me get most places. I am already dreaming of tossing the bike in the back of my truck and doing some of the routes on AppalachianBackroads.com this coming season, but it would be nice not to have to truck the bike everywhere.


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To be clear we are talking about fully tucking down. Yes sitting upright I'm sure upper 50s or low 60s.



I was quoting peak speeds so you have an idea of its potential. Much like most of the magazines don't publish peak speeds while sitting upright....





Well except for Gold Wings....Superhawks...and the like....


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ZX14: 222 mph
ZX12: 229.6 mph
ZX10: 202.8 mph

ZX9: 177.6 mph
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EX650: 130.7 mph

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February 12, 2019, 10:12 AM

We could see from the video. Also, your tucking down and my tucking down are very different. lol. Chicken wings keeps me from attaining the Shiphteey lean in. By like, a lot.


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ZX14: 222 mph
ZX12: 229.6 mph
ZX10: 202.8 mph

ZX9: 177.6 mph
ZX6R: 180.8 mph
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February 12, 2019, 11:08 AM

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Shiphteey nailed it with the motor comparisons. I'll add that I prefer the motor in the grom. It's a little lazier and less manic.



I added a Yoshi cam and 170cc KOSO kit. I took the KOSO kit back out and went back to 125ccs. The BBK was great from a power perspective but had a fair amount of piston slap. It also overheated on a 70F day. I tried tuning it with an auto tuner, still predetonated, and decided no on it. I may revisit it. For now, it's 125ccs with a yoshi cam.



The Z125 is nice because it has an actual oil filter. The grom needs to have the clutch cover removed so you can clean the spinner and internal filter.

Also, the Grom is more comfortable to me once you deal with the seat issue and has a bigger aftermarket.
The Honda guy at the booth this weekend said the monkey and the grom shares the same motor so the aftermarket bits should work either way. Maybe worth some homework.
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internal motor parts, indeed. Just not exhausts/intakes so much. Also, any body/suspension mods not so much either. Lots of that stuff is different.


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Word is Groms will break 100 mph when worked.


J got his to over 110 on GPS!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48LrYCj1LpA


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I picked up a red Monkey with ABS today. Can't wait to rail the hell out of some twisty roads on it. Picking up plates at work tomorrow and will give it what for around town. I plan to do some of the routes on appalachianbackroads.com and windy9.com this season on it.


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March 28, 2019, 07:11 AM

awesome!




I've got about 700 miles on mine. The motor is freeing up nicely. I'm not sure if I said before but I installed a 170cc kit and went back to a 125cc kit. I prefer the 125.


I have a fueling solution, yoshimuira cam, full exhaust and went down a tooth in the front. It pulls my 250lb ass around nicely. I see 55-58 on the highway steady provided there's no head wind. That's wearing my winter gear.


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Dig it. I plan to pick up some seat bolts, bolt for a RAM mount, and eventually an exhaust. I like the look of the Akrapovic that was announced not too long ago. Hopefully it sounds as good as the Yosh.

Turn signals are absolutely gigantic lollipops that need to go away. They'd be just about right on an Electra Glide, not the Monkey.

A fender eliminator is also in the cards, as per usual.

Going to first gear feels weird, like you're not all the way bottomed out. There is still a lot of play in the linkage. I hear a replacement shift lever will help that.

Can you adjust your clutch? Mine engages almost all the way out. I was unable to move the knurled knobs near the handle at all when fiddling with the bike last night. I figure one might be a locking nut or some such, but neither would move in either direction.


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I haven't touched the clutch adjustment. It looks like a standard perch type adjustment.



I almost never change the signals but I did on this. I went with the Japanese set up.


All of it was factory Honda. All of it was cost prohibitively expensive.



I also added a factory Honda rack.
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April 8, 2019, 06:19 PM

On Saturday I took the Monkey out on a loop I'd taken a few other bikes on years ago:

Motorcycle Roads (VA): East Burke Loop

It was way more fun this time. I am not that much better a rider than I was back on my last loop, but this bike makes you feel like you are. It is so easy to toss it into a corner and hit every apex, then "power" out. My Street Triple feels like an Electra Glide in comparison.

I'm tossing the bike in the back of my truck and taking a route on the BRP tomorrow:

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