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Rt 33 heating up - October 10, 2010, 04:19 PM

Made a few passes over Rt 33 today. WV state had a patrol unit posted on the mountain most of the afternoon. According to a local down at the store in Brandywine there was a bad MC crash involving a sportbike up there yesterday. (No details, hope the rider is ok)

What was kind of odd is he was posted on the outside edge of a corner with a 25mph advisory sign about 1/2 up the mountain. I went by him fairly well cranked over 3 times at 55mph on the dot (the actual speed limit) and didn't get a rise out of him. I think he was posted up there mostly to make their presense known.
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Not surprising, a matter if time... shame all the same.

Just an FYI, the advised, posed limit, is the actual limit, not the previous posted limit, so you were doing 30 over.

Exit ramp limits are speed limits, they are different colors to draw attention and post advisory, not suggest as common opinion suggests.


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Fuck that speed limit signs are goals to double on off ramps.


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Not surprising, a matter if time... shame all the same.

Just an FYI, the advised, posed limit, is the actual limit, not the previous posted limit, so you were doing 30 over.

Exit ramp limits are speed limits, they are different colors to draw attention and post advisory, not suggest as common opinion suggests.
Well if that is the case I guess maybe he was napping. He didn't even blip his lights or siren as a I went by. I recognized him, maybe he remembered giving me a ticket earlier this year and figured I had already paid my fun tax for the year.
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They always sit at the top of the mountain. That's nothing new.


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Not surprising, a matter if time... shame all the same.

Just an FYI, the advised, posed limit, is the actual limit, not the previous posted limit, so you were doing 30 over.

Exit ramp limits are speed limits, they are different colors to draw attention and post advisory, not suggest as common opinion suggests.
You sir are not correct.

Advisory Speed Signs

ADVISORY SPEED SIGNS






In addition to black-on-white regulatory signs, which indicate mandatory legal requirements, advisory black-on-yellow or black-on-orange advisory speed signs may be posted.

As noted in the MUTCD, the purpose of these advisory signs is to:
“… call attention to unexpected conditions on or adjacent to a highway, street, or private roads open to public travel and to situations that might not be readily apparent to road users. Warning signs alert road users to conditions that might call for a reduction of speed or an action in the interest of safety and efficient traffic operations.”
These signs are advisory. Unlike speed limit signs, they do not represent a legal requirement; drivers cannot be ticketed for not heeding the advice given on them.



Advisory speed signs have a great advantage over speed limit signs: Rather than being based on decisions of governmental bodies, the numbers on advisory speed signs are to be based on a law of physics. This is the law stating that a moving object will continue in the same direction unless acted upon by an outside force.
When driving around a curve, a driver may observe the effect of this physical law as a “force” that tends to pull their vehicle toward the outside of the roadway*(See footnote below).
The strength of this force depends upon the speed of the vehicle and the sharpness of the curve—higher speeds and sharper curves produce predictably stronger forces. Drivers who travel too fast around a curve will suffer the consequences as their vehicle skids uncontrollably off the roadway—no exceptions.
Drivers have their own individual tolerance for this force—some motorists feel perfectly safe at speeds that would make others uncomfortable. It is, therefore, impossible to post a number that would specify a suitable speed for each driver who passes.
Nonetheless, advisory speed signs could be very useful if all curves were posted with a speed that would create the same force on any vehicle traveling the curve at that speed.
Motorists who are comfortable with the force generated at the posted speed would travel each curve at the posted speed. If the posted speed creates a force that exceeds their comfort level, other motorists would learn to reduce their speed below the posted value by enough to comfortably drive around each curve.
Some drivers may be comfortable driving faster than posted speeds and would confidently travel curves at a higher speed. Thus, each driver would learn by experience how much faster or slower than the posted speed they should drive to comfortably negotiate the curve.
This will work, however, only if signs are posted such that drivers experience essentially the same force when traveling around any curve at the posted speed. If they experience significantly different forces at posted speeds, motorists will find advisory signs unreliable and pay little attention to them, which, unfortunately, seems to be the case.
(Reader Note: The following is a description of engineering specifications and considerations for setting advisory speeds. If you are not interested in these details, skip to “CORRECTIVE ACTION NEEDED”.)



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They always sit at the top of the mountain. That's nothing new.
I pass thru there fairly regularly (several times each year) and I think this is the only the 2nd time I've seen a cop on the VA/WV section. Maybe they know when you're coming.
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A long time ago when I started riding I was exploring that area and decided to do a few laps on 33. On the WVA side right where the straightaway, there was a DUI checkpoint. I would stop and make U turns to hit the twities right before the cops.

And they didn't mind.

If we loose 33, I officially declare DC Area shitty for riding. At that point we are only left with 1 more good spot in WVA further up North.

And the beltway... hahaha...
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A long time ago when I started riding I was exploring that area and decided to do a few laps on 33. On the WVA side right where the straightaway, there was a DUI checkpoint. I would stop and make U turns to hit the twities right before the cops.

And they didn't mind.

If we loose 33, I officially declare DC Area shitty for riding. At that point we are only left with 1 more good spot in WVA further up North.

And the beltway... hahaha...
I guess if you need to use public roads as racetracks sure...otherwise the DC area offers some of the best riding I've seen, Colorado is pretty epic, northern alabama is so-so. I heard tons about the texas hill country, but I borrowed a bike the other day and spent 12 hours on the road...unimpressed.

Va/Wv and western MD have you all spoiled, the road quality and choice is fantastic compared to some of the areas I've been in a year and half away from there.


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Yes, I am venting, because the good stuff *starts* about 100-120 away from DC. That's substantial, and very limiting for day rides.

Please do a TX ride report... People say twisties are great around Austin...
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I guess if you need to use public roads as racetracks sure...otherwise the DC area offers some of the best riding I've seen, Colorado is pretty epic, northern alabama is so-so. I heard tons about the texas hill country, but I borrowed a bike the other day and spent 12 hours on the road...unimpressed.

Va/Wv and western MD have you all spoiled, the road quality and choice is fantastic compared to some of the areas I've been in a year and half away from there.
+1 Yeah, it's a drag that Rt. 33 and 211 are so well-policed, but there are other roads, especially in WV.

Didn't seem like there was much heat on 211 or 33 until folks started wrecking rather regularly on them, which subsequently brought a lot of unwanted attention to both areas. Sucks, but that's what happens...

And as a Texan, I'll confirm that Texas hill country ain't all that. It's why I can't move back home unless I move to Austin where I can run trackdays on the new F1 track.
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Please do a TX ride report... People say twisties are great around Austin...
Austin's hill country is okay, but the ones who think that the twisties are great are probably folks who live in places like Houston where the only turns are on highway cloverleafs (which describes me--a native Houstonian who went to school in Austin). Again, the Austin hill country is nice for Texas, but pretty mediocre compared to what we have around here.
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Yes, I am venting, because the good stuff *starts* about 100-120 away from DC. That's substantial, and very limiting for day rides.

Please do a TX ride report... People say twisties are great around Austin...

well, I'm picking up a bike soon so I'll be able to ride more but from Del Rio, up to San Antonio/Austin/New Braunfels the roads are hit or miss.

There are some twisty sections, but nothing spectacular and little as good as some of the basic roads you can find in and around 150 miles of nova. On top of that road quality is TERRIBLE...let me repeat that...FUCKING TERRIBLE. The traction is awful, the asphalt is pretty slick to begin with but until New Braunfels it is dusty as hell too so its a bit sketchy. Above that it gets better but still not great. when you get to the sticks its sometimes tough to tell if its dirt or asphalt you're riding on.

Dctex hit the nail on the head. I see lots of harleys around here and lots of folks with stretched/chromed/lowered sportbikes, and with the roads the way they are, I'm looking at harleys for my next bike, supermotos are too uncomfortable, its 100 miles to anything fun and sportbikes are useless around here unless you just want to do 100mph all the time.

I was definitely spoiled by VA, roads everywhere, lots of tracks w/in 12 hours, the Mid-Atlantic and Southeast are the places to live if you ride as far as I'm concerned. I guessif you lived in New Braunfels or Austin the roads are close, but otherwise, its 200-300 miles to get to decent roads in this state, 100-120 sounds like a nice jaunt for me.

final message, I guess there are folks who love Texas..me, I'm glad I've only got 6 months left here. If I get an instructor assignment that keeps me here, I will be one depressed dude!


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Yes, I am venting, because the good stuff *starts* about 100-120 away from DC. That's substantial, and very limiting for day rides.

Please do a TX ride report... People say twisties are great around Austin...
You need to plan a 3-4 day trip to southwestern VA/Western NC/Eastern Tennessee! The roads are insane, the cops are cool (except for the feds on BRP), and the food at all the tucked-in-the-mountain diners is cheap and awesome.


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