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October 6, 2003, 08:50 PM

So what do you do when you are having fun on your favorite roads and you come up quickly on that blind left or right hander, your enjoying the lean of the bike then suddenly you see it....first a couple of gravel pellets...then that whole freak'n line of gravel....

So what do you do?

a. Sit up and grab brake
b. Slow down and keep leaning
c. Lean and scream
d. Speed up
e. none of the above


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October 6, 2003, 09:08 PM

1. Brake quickly on the clean pavement to scrub off speed.
2. Let-off the brakes entirely as you get into the gravel.
3. Stand the bike up as you hang off the left side, so you can still keep turning.
4. Slowly roll out of the throttle which will keep you turning as you slow down.
5. If you slide, countersteer thru the gravel, and get your left foot out to save it like a dirtbike!

2, 3, and 4 need to be done at the same time, all as though your riding in a fresh rain, which means SMOOTHLY. Just my opinion, but it's a situation that comes-up at the track every now and then. Could be gravel, oil, sand, or whatever. I'm assuming there's no place to run-off safely in this situation, Rick. If there isn't, my best advice is never to enter a blind corner at full-lean. Leave 20% of your skills and attention for getting yourself out of trouble like this. My two cents.


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October 6, 2003, 10:58 PM

f. You high side the hell out of the bike and regain consciousness with someone who lives on the road poking you with a stick.
(That was what happened to me at least on route 606 along Shenandoah River coming up to 50)

JP's advice sounds good in theory, I am not sure if many can pull it off. I opt for shaving off as much speed as possible then trying to coast thru the gravel. Odds are you are going down. Pray for a lowside and no oncoming traffic.
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October 7, 2003, 12:29 AM

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f. You high side the hell out of the bike and regain consciousness with someone who lives on the road poking you with a stick.
(That was what happened to me at least on route 606 along Shenandoah River coming up to 50)
Damn Arlington!!! That was my Sunday. Same circumstances, same road, and with the exception of a “poking-stick” the same outcome. Never even saw the gravel (pavement on 606 is rough and gray) or had a chance to react. By the time I felt the front let go the rear had already come around and I was flying, than asphalt surfing for about 40 yards.

Unbelievably, I’m fine except for shoulder and bruises and the bike received practically no damage.

See ya on the road…well maybe not 606.


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October 7, 2003, 12:43 AM

I'd pick C, but without the leaning
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October 7, 2003, 01:13 AM

unless youv'e got JPv's skills pray cuz it looks like your fucked well, you can opt for A if the road allows you to. That seems like the closest thing to JPv's method


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October 7, 2003, 08:06 AM

gravel rarely covers the whole lane. this is why, instead of takikng the best line through a corner, I'll usually follow in the car tracks. its safer there, and has kept me out of trouble countless times.


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gravel rarely covers the whole lane. this is why, instead of takikng the best line through a corner, I'll usually follow in the car tracks. its safer there, and has kept me out of trouble countless times.

You are smarter than you look brad.


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October 7, 2003, 08:56 AM

If you are at full lean you are going to hit the ground if your tires hit any debris wheather thats gravel, oil, water, whatever. Most of the time your bike can lean further so the best choice in my mind is to change your line to minimize the amount of time your tires are in contact with the debris. My second choice is to not do anything abrubtly and leave it up to the bike if it gets through it ok.
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Damn Arlington!!! That was my Sunday. Same circumstances, same road, and with the exception of a “poking-stick” the same outcome. Never even saw the gravel (pavement on 606 is rough and gray) or had a chance to react.

Bummer man!
Where did you go down on that road?
I used to love that road until I crashed on it pretty bad. It was the last right hander coming up to 50...we we blazing, road was clear and no traffic and I was in the "zone" looking thru the turn and never noticed LOTS of gravel had washed down into the apex...I was cranked way over on a 99RR at like 50 or so I am told.
That road is MISERY after any sort of rain....I have ridden it a few times since but it has never been in good shape. The last time I was on it I almost got hit by a rural mail truck and have retired that road from my twistie routes.

I lost long term memory for a couple of days, broke 2 ribs, and shattered my hand...actually still have screws holding my knuckles together from that stupid gravel.
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October 7, 2003, 12:40 PM

Arlington: I was heading the opposite direction (north?) 606 for about 3 miles and ate it on a downhill left going at 50-60ish. The road condition really helped to camouflage the gravel patch that extended across 3/4's of the lane.

It appears that I took more of a beating than my ride and the sliders did a MAGNIFICENT job. Thankfully, I was wearing full gear and did'nt get as f-up as you (shoulder is killing though) and I'll soon be back to my old retarded self.

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unless youv'e got JPv's skills pray cuz it looks like your fucked well, you can opt for A if the road allows you to. That seems like the closest thing to JPv's method
if you're already in the gravel when you opt for A, then you're fucked.


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October 7, 2003, 01:19 PM

Man - that is not bad for a high side at all....bike is ok, you are ok (for the most part) - glad it worked out for you. I assume no cops or rangers stopped by to write you up too. The people who found me actually took me to the hospital
Where you were I am guessing you were just coming back down by the river more and it is pretty dark down there with all the trees and kind of tight.

I was wearing full gear too! Stupid Spidi Carbovent Gloves did more harm to my hand than good with all that flashy plastic shit on them. I did about 2k in damage to my RR....it bounced on its tank and left side pretty good.
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April 19, 2004, 11:39 PM

I agree with JP but would modify it to say 1 will cause 3. Don't be afraid to hit the brakes in full lean but make sire you know what the bike will want to do and don't fight it. And what it will want to do is stand up. I've had to do hard braking from a hard lean because of cars, animals, gravel etc with nary a problem.

I think I posted it before but make sure you know how the bike will react to given circumstances, then let it do it's thing. You'll be much better off. Most people would go down because they think using the front brakes while leaned is a bad thing. It's not. Practice trail braking as doing a hard brake from a lean is the exact opposite.

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April 19, 2004, 11:48 PM

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G: Close your eyes and wish the gravel fairy to take the gravel away
H: Stop the bike...pull out the dustbuster and clean it up


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