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Leadership - August 24, 2006, 02:47 PM

What does everyone think a good leader does when leading a group ride?

I have been following for 1 season and a half of riding. I have noticed that there are some really really good leaders and there are some crappy leaders.

I have only followed one really crappy leader... but I won't mention his name...

One Day, I will lead a group ride... and would like some advice.


I noticed that good leaders tend to look out for their group. When there is a tough twisty, they always look back to make sure the whole group comes through the turn. They make sure that when turning at an intersection, they make hand signals or light signal way ahead of time.


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Hand signals, and know your group.


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Good leaders never put the riders behind them through something they wouldn't feel comfortable doing themselves.

Good leaders know who they have behind them and know what type of pace they can push to keep the group together and have fun.

Good leaders will listen and take heed of what others say and apply it to their riding and how they bring a group through the twisites.

Good leaders will know when to take acceptable risks and when to hang back and play it safe.

A good leader has been a follower, and should always feel comfortable following behind those that have done the job longer than they have.

Overall, a leader is only as good as those willing to follow him through the turns.

I'm drawing many parallels from my training from my previous job, but the overall theme and ideas stay the same, in my opinion. And a leader needs a good sweeper to ensure things stay together and situations are handled. Just as there are certain people I will ride behind, there are certain people I truely feel comfortable with bringing up the rear of the group.


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Thanks! Keep the advice coming! Common great leaders, share some wisdom!

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When I'm leading, I try to describe the route taken, and if there are any "gotcha" turns coming up (learned that one from nudist, who warned me about the isle-of-man like airborne turn out by harpers ferry "okay, so you'll go up a hill, turn left, then right, then you'll be in the air, when you land, turn left" )

Also, periodically (at lights and the like), I check to see if the pace is proper for the riders involved.

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I try to stop more often if there are newer riders on board and ask them if they are ok with the pace. I always wait till I see my sweep at stop signs. If one gets slowed down for whatever reason Ill slow the pace or stop till I see them coming.

Go over signals with the ones you havent ridden with before. For a sweep I alwys look for a bike thats easy to pick out that has a good rider aboard.


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Is there a thread with all the hand signals that we use? If there is maybe on every ride thread we should like to that just so everyone knows? Just a thought.


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I don't think you've ever been with me when I lead so I don't think you're refering to me. That being said here is a few of the things I do.

I keep in mind that I might be riding with less experienced riders and riders I've never been on a ride with before. Lay the ground rules early like stunting, no stunting, pace, passing ect ect ect. GO OVER ALL SIGNALS. You would be surprised how many people don't know them or are used to useing different signals.

I look back A LOT to check the group but I normally search for my sweeper. Anyone who has swept for me knows I look for that thumbs up all the the time. I personally put the less experienced riders toward the back with the sweeper since he/she is going to make sure no one gets left behind.

Stop at every stop sign and wait for your sweeper to let you know the group is good to continue on. Once I reach my first stopping/rest point I normally check with thr group for anny pace changes, route changes if I'm open to a route change of course, rider placement ect ect ect.

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A good leader understands the "rubber band" effect. If the first bike accelerates rapidly from a stop, the next bike must accelerate even faster to catch up, and it just gets worse from there. A good leader accelerates slowly from stops until the whole group is up to speed.


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I have nothing to contribute...I'm not a leader...people just make me ride in front so I won't mess with them


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I'll just never forget the ride back from Springfield TWT, me, leon, chris, rob, a few others, I think we were switching off leaders every 20 seconds and used all three lanes. That was a crazy ride home.


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I'll just never forget the ride back from Springfield TWT, me, leon, chris, rob, a few others, I think we were switching off leaders every 20 seconds and used all three lanes. That was a crazy ride home.


Thats not a ride ... that is a race!!


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