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Harley Davidson ready to buy MV Agusta - July 14, 2008, 01:08 PM

HD has initiated the process of buying MV Agusta.


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From the NY Times

Business Briefing | Technology
Harley-Davidson to Buy Italian Motorcycle Maker

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: July 12, 2008
Harley-Davidson said Friday it would buy the Italian motorcycle maker MV Agusta Group for about $109 million to increase its presence in Europe. MV Agusta makes a line of premium sport motorcycles under its name brand and a line of lightweight motorcycles under the Cagiva brand. The deal will help Harley-Davidson expand into the European market as sales slump in the United States, where consumers are pulling back on spending.



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I bet the Italian YaoMatt is saying the Yanks will ruin one of their industry icons.... and he's right.

oh an btw...$109M ??? Damn thats cheap....must be a *&$&*^ in operating costs...


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oh an btw...$109M ??? Damn thats cheap....must be a *&$&*^ in operating costs...
Not as cheap as the 1 Euro for which it was sold by Proton in 2005 (I think). And that was including Husky at the time. Ask the Malaysians how they feel about that.
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I hope that HD somehow makes MV and Buell sahre knowledge to continually improve the brands as they have done so good with Buell so far.
I think getting the MV engineers to HD will be a great addition for high performance technology.



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Now if HD would just bring the XR1200 to the states


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I hope that HD somehow makes MV and Buell sahre knowledge to continually improve the brands as they have done so good with Buell so far.
I think getting the MV engineers to HD will be a great addition for high performance technology.
The harley brand is like it is because the people who buy Harley's want the look, sound, and feel that it is now. They don't really want it to change too much. I have ridden many cruisers and while they all have their strong points, I have never ridden a bike that has the entire package that the harley has. Yes, you have to spend some more money to upgrade cams, heads, pipes, even piston and can size to get decent power but we all know that going in but that isn't technologies fault that is EPA and money.
With a 117 or 120inch kit on my softail I could be looking at 120hp and 115ft lb tq and that kind of tq is nothing to laugh at. Stock in the 70's so 45 more for about 5 grand with install and case boring.

The Buell, why does it need help. you seen the performance numbers, reviews and what the new 1125R is doing? many think it is a contender against Ducati and Aprilla. Rotax designed the buell engine and also the aprilla.


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5 grand on top of the 20+ to make the damn things run? I like em but there's a long line of bikes keeping a Harley out of my garage.

Rotax is a well respected engine maker. Harley went to Porche for help with emissions on the VRod motor. They're a player in the industry and can get whatever engineering talent they need. I think this is more about image and European floorspace. MV Agusta, legendary. Cagiva (bulk of the business), scooters.

We'll need a web cam for the American tourist who goes into Harley Davidson of [Euro Capital] for the obligatory t-shirt, and finds scooters in the showroom.


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5 grand on top of the 20+ to make the damn things run? I like em but there's a long line of bikes keeping a Harley out of my garage.

Rotax is a well respected engine maker. Harley went to Porche for help with emissions on the VRod motor. They're a player in the industry and can get whatever engineering talent they need. I think this is more about image and European floorspace. MV Agusta, legendary. Cagiva (bulk of the business), scooters.

We'll need a web cam for the American tourist who goes into Harley Davidson of [Euro Capital] for the obligatory t-shirt, and finds scooters in the showroom.
You do have to consider resale and on these it is very good even today, bad economy withstanding.
American products cost more because our Pay is more, insurance is more (for workers), building space more, on and on. I don't know of any American made product that is cheap!

I have maybe 25 grand into mine and that is extended warranty, lojack, all the aftermarket stuff like cams, exhaust, air, tuner, mini tack, sissy bar and such. It really runs well enough that I can't complain. It accellerates very well for a 700lb bike but it isn't my gsxr. I don't know that I would want a 120 kit. This bike barely stops now!
The Harley is a keeper, I would like to try other bikes but that is what the gsxr is for, to sell to get other bikes!

I hear ya though, and it is a commitment to own one but many could say that about Ducati!


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You do have to consider resale and on these it is very good even today, bad economy withstanding.
American products cost more because our Pay is more, insurance is more (for workers), building space more, on and on. I don't know of any American made product that is cheap!
Understood, just wish I had the disposable income. Two Harleys I'd like to have is a chopped in the 60's or 70's Pan and a pro stock(ish) street rod.


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Understood, just wish I had the disposable income. Two Harleys I'd like to have is a chopped in the 60's or 70's Pan and a pro stock(ish) street rod.
Mine wasn't disposable but after paying child support all those years, living in the back of my truck when first divorced, living in a warehouse etc. 16years later I felt like I deserved a gift. The money went from her to HD!


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Mine wasn't disposable but after paying child support all those years, living in the back of my truck when first divorced, living in a warehouse etc. 16years later I felt like I deserved a gift. The money went from her to HD!
How sweet it is . . .


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American products cost more because our Pay is more, insurance is more (for workers), building space more, on and on. I don't know of any American made product that is cheap!
Do you know how many Honda vehicles, both cars and bikes are manufactured in the US?

How about how much money Honda and Harley puts into the hands of US workers?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/11/01/auto.main/index.html

Honda purchases $12 billion from US suppliers annually. Harley only generates about $6 billion in total revenue per year.



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the will find a way to ruin MV. Im really sad about this


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