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December 12, 2005, 07:56 PM

Well, I found this on another board. A couple of people have tred it and said that it works very well...

http://zx-10r.net/forum/showthread.p...light=throttle


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December 12, 2005, 08:02 PM

Since I am the one of the first people that comes to this site to learn, I will admit I have no idea how this works.

I read that it makes you throw your throttle shorter. From 90 to 72 degrees, but why wouldn't using a shorter cable do that too?

Could some of the techno wizards help us Mr & Mz. Badwrenches understand this modification please?


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December 12, 2005, 08:47 PM

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Since I am the one of the first people that comes to this site to learn, I will admit I have no idea how this works.

I read that it makes you throw your throttle shorter. From 90 to 72 degrees, but why wouldn't using a shorter cable do that too?

Could some of the techno wizards help us Mr & Mz. Badwrenches understand this modification please?
Guzz -- I've never seen this done before, but I think I understand your question:

Using a shorter throttle cable would do this:
The new 72 degree position now has the cable on the throttle bodies where it was with the old 90 degree position.
The problem is that at the NEW 0 degree position, the cable on the throttle bodies is now at the old 18 degree position. This would cause it to rev higher than desired at idle.


What this mod apparently does is:
The new 72 degree position is at the old 90 degree position....and the new 0 degree position is still at the old 0 degree position. It basically makes the cable move the same distance in 72 degrees that it did in 90 degrees before.

Or am I pulling crap out of my arse again?
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December 12, 2005, 09:02 PM

Guzz, a shorter cable won’t work because the length doesn’t change the amount of throw or movement. Think, if you don’t move the throttle tube on the hand grip at all and just shorten the cable. Now the lever on the throttle body (or carb) will not be able to reach the closed position even though it’s closed at the hand grip.

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Just as you change gear ratio (final drive actually) by putting in a larger or smaller sprocket, you can change the ratio of hand twisting to actual throttle twisting by changing the diameter of the tube. You could also change it at the engine end but why? This is a slick mod.

I have one on my 750 and love it.


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After taking a closer look it is a simple change in the circumference of what the cable wraps around. Here is a visual aid:

The arc length of the old is the same length as the arc length of the new...



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I have one on my 750 and love it.
I never thought of this before, but it seems like a great solution. Do you ever find yourself hitting the throttle harder than you expected? How long did it take you to get used to it?
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You won't see enough of a difference with a 1/4 throttle, most stock bikes are pretty close to that, try a 1/6 throttle if you want to see a real difference. Your stock throttle take 1/4 turn from closed to fully open. This movement requires you to move your grip to get the last little part fully open, and another grip movement to fully close the throttle before getting on the brakes. With the 1/6 turn throttle you do not need to change your grip.


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I have one on my 750 and love it.
I never thought of this before, but it seems like a great solution. Do you ever find yourself hitting the throttle harder than you expected? How long did it take you to get used to it?
Nah no problems, I’ve always been respectful of the throttle coming out of turns.

Funny you should ask about getting used to it. I actually forgot that I had installed until the third or fourth session

It really just reduces the work load a little.


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You won't see enough of a difference with a 1/4 throttle, most stock bikes are pretty close to that, try a 1/6 throttle if you want to see a real difference. Your stock throttle take 1/4 turn from closed to fully open. This movement requires you to move your grip to get the last little part fully open, and another grip movement to fully close the throttle before getting on the brakes. With the 1/6 turn throttle you do not need to change your grip.
Agreed, I'd like a 1/6 turn, especially after trying the 1/5. Didn't know they were readily available.


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Yep, check out www.kyleusa.com


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Yep, check out www.kyleusa.com
Hey, this one is free!
http://www.kyleusa.com/catalog/hrc_q...da_4724653.htm
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Yep, check out www.kyleusa.com
Hey, this one is free!
http://www.kyleusa.com/catalog/hrc_q...da_4724653.htm
Sorry, didn't know they didn't offer it for Kawasaki, but I'm sure its soon to come.


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Looks like he only has them for Honda


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Yeah, I got one for my RC, I thought he had them for most current race applications, which would actually eliminate the RC. Well sorry, but I got one for my bike.


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December 12, 2005, 10:04 PM

SO, does this mod work or not?


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