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School a new rider? - January 28, 2012, 11:09 AM

I came to riding late in life and don't know much about bikes. Part of my problem is I'm short and there are only so many bikes I can flatfoot. The only new vehicle I've ever bought is a Suzuki TU250 that I rode from DC to Duluth MN and back last August. I want another bike. I don't own a car, won't be buying one and need reliable trans even if one bike is in the shop or something. At the IMS/DC I looked the Bonneville.

I remember stories about Triumphs and maintenance/repair issues. I've also been hearing that all that has changed. I don't know what that means. I'll always be paying for someone else to be doing the maintenance and I don't make much in my job so if a Triumph bike has a 'high cost of ownership' that's a problem for me.

I'm asking for your comments on whether or not a Triumph is a good choice for someone with little mechanical knowledge, few mechanical skills and no place to do the work anyway. Thanks.


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January 28, 2012, 01:13 PM

Stick to Japanese if your main concern is cost of ownership. New Triumphs seem to be very reliable BUT you have to also think about what happens if you lay the bike down and have to purchase/replace parts. Suzuki is pretty good with people that are vertically challenged.


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January 28, 2012, 02:23 PM

Parts are generally a little cheaper on the Japanese bikes, yes.

The Bonneville is just as reliable of a bike now as anything else on the road. They haven't changed that engine in years, except going to FI in 2009. If you don't mind a carbed bike, there are tons of used ones out there in good shape.

Basic maintenance on them is simple. You don't need any space, and only a couple basic tools. Where do you live? If you're anywhere close to Manassas I'll come show you how to do an oil change, etc... shops rape you for this kind of stuff.

The old 60s-70s Triumphs had a bad reputation, somewhat well deserved... largely in part to the wonderful Lucas Electronics. The new ones share nothing with them except the name on the tank.
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Basic maintenance on them is simple. You don't need any space, and only a couple basic tools. Where do you live? If you're anywhere close to Manassas I'll come show you how to do an oil change, etc... shops rape you for this kind of stuff.
Thanks, that sounds great if you don't mind teaching newbies. It'll probably be next summer before I have the money together for the next bike but when I get it I'll take you up on your offer. I'm near DC but I can come out your way. You won't have to move tools and I'll get a reason to ride. I'll send you a PM later this year.


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I've had both a Thruxton and a Bonnie (05 and 03) and they were stone axe reliable. I've also had a 98 St, and an 02 955i Daytona, both have moved on to other owners and both are still being ridden; the Daytona was bought by a friend of mine who put somewhere in the neighborhood of 40,000 miles on it in two years and minus the regular service items and a couple of sets of cush drive rubbers, had zero issues.

Back in the bad old days, (1970 somthin') I had a Trident, and it was without a doubt, the WORST piece of shizz EVAR!!!!!

It wouldn't run when it rained, it wouldn't run when you washed it, it shook parts off as you rode down the road, it needed a complete valve job at 3000 miles (not and adjustment; new seats, guides and valves and the cam had galled). I was NEVER happier to see a bike go as that one.

The quality of Triumphs today are equal to or greater than anything put out buy Japan; I would not hesitate to buy one and ride it across town or across the US (because I have). The two cyly models are reliable, easy to work on and fun to ride.


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I've had both a Thruxton and a Bonnie (05 and 03) and they were stone axe reliable. I've also had a 98 St, and an 02 955i Daytona, both have moved on to other owners and both are still being ridden; the Daytona was bought by a friend of mine who put somewhere in the neighborhood of 40,000 miles on it in two years and minus the regular service items and a couple of sets of cush drive rubbers, had zero issues.

Back in the bad old days, (1970 somthin') I had a Trident, and it was without a doubt, the WORST piece of shizz EVAR!!!!!

It wouldn't run when it rained, it wouldn't run when you washed it, it shook parts off as you rode down the road, it needed a complete valve job at 3000 miles (not and adjustment; new seats, guides and valves and the cam had galled). I was NEVER happier to see a bike go as that one.

The quality of Triumphs today are equal to or greater than anything put out buy Japan; I would not hesitate to buy one and ride it across town or across the US (because I have). The two cyly models are reliable, easy to work on and fun to ride.
Thanks, this is exactly the kind of info I was looking for.


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