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2010 Yamaha XT1200Z Super Tenere - March 3, 2010, 04:30 PM

as mentioned in another thread, the new Tenere is out:





Don't worry if it weighs too much, if you hate or love the styling...you won't see this stateside...

Bring back the 2010 version of this:....





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Sweet bike, I've been pondering a BMW F 800 GS purchase in the next year or so but this would have been an option if it was available (based on looks alone without research).


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The FJR was first released in only Europe, too. Yamaha later released it in North America.
So there's still some hope ....
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Not sure why the Japanese big 3 have let BMW and KTM dominate this niche for so long. Honda? Where's your "Super" Transalp?

Good looking bike. If the price point significantly undercuts the R1200GS...it might be a serious consideration.


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The FJR was first released in only Europe, too. Yamaha later released it in North America.
So there's still some hope ....

there is..but with the strong yen the Tenere would come in somewhere around $18,000. Ok that includes metal panniers but is still twice the price of a Vstrom....


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there is..but with the strong yen the Tenere would come in somewhere around $18,000. Ok that includes metal panniers but is still twice the price of a Vstrom....
$18,000 pegs them close to the BMW R1200GS enduro bike, right?
I think they're going head-to-head against KTM and BMW.
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$18,000 pegs them close to the BMW R1200GS enduro bike, right?
I think they're going head-to-head against KTM and BMW.
Here's HFL's take on the raw numbers - personally I think you have to ride them to judge the character. Some of their comments seem premature - like how the MultiStrada and Tenere would handle off road...

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With the release of the 2010 Yamaha Super Tenere and the Ducati Multistrada 1200, there's now five serious adventure tourers competing for your round-the-world budget.
We've broken them down by their performance figures to help you decide which one's best.

All these numbers come straight from the manufacturers.
We've chosen to use dry instead of wet weights since the relatively large difference in tank sizes would artificially skew the comparisons.
While these aren't the weights you'll experience as you try to navigate across a sandy slope, they do lead to the fairest comparison possible.
We've italicized what we feel is the winner in each category; in the case of rider aids, this is a bit subjective, feel free to decide which setup works best for you.
We've thrown the originator of the current adventure tourer archetype, the 1980 BMW R80G/S into the mix just to give you an idea how far things have come.

Power
BMW R1200GS: 110bhp @ 7,750rpm
Ducati Multistrada 1200 150bhp @ 9,250rpm
Yamaha Super Tenere 110bhp @ 7,250rpm
KTM 990 Adventure 105bhp @ 8,250rpm
Suzuki V-Strom 1000 98bhp @ 7,400rpm
'80 BMW R80G/S: 50bhp @ 6,500rpm

Torque
BMW R1200GS: 88lb/ft @ 6,000rpm
Ducati Multistrada: 88lb/ft @ 7,500rpm

Super Tenere: 85lb/ft @ 6,000rpm
KTM Adventure: 74lb/ft @ 6,250rpm
V-Strom 1000: 74lb/ft@ 6,400 rpm
'80 R80G/S 41lb/ft @ 5,000 rpm

Dry Weight
BMW R1200GS: 203kg (448 lbs)
Ducati Multistrada: 189kg (417lbs)
Super Tenere: 244kg (538lbs)
KTM Adventure: 209kg (461lbs)
V-Strom 1000: 207kg (456lbs)
'80 R80G/S: 186kg (410lbs)

Power to weight (bhp:kg)

BMW R1200GS: .54:1
Ducati Multistrada: .79:1
Super Tenere: .45:1
KTM Adventure: .50:1
V-Strom 1000: .47:1
'80 R80G/S: .27:1

Torque to weight (lb/ft:kg)
BMW R1200GS: .43:1
Ducati Multistrada: .47:1
Super Tenere: .35:1
KTM Adventure: .35:1
V-Strom 1000: .36:1
'80 R80G/S: .22:1

Tank Size
BMW R1200GS: 5.3 gallons
Ducati Multistrada: 5.3 gallons
Super Tenere: 6.1 gallons
KTM Adventure: 5.2 gallons US
V-Strom 1000: 5.8 gallons
'80 R80G/S: 5.2 gallons

Front Wheel
BMW R1200GS: 19"
Ducati Multistrada: 17"
Super Tenere: 19"
KTM Adventure: 21"
V-Strom 1000: 19"
'80 R80G/S: 21"

Rider Aids
BMW R1200GS: optional and fully-defeatable ABS
Ducati Multistrada: push-button adjustment of suspension height, power delivery and traction control, fully-defeatable ABS
Super Tenere: combined brakes, non-defeatable ABS, three-mode traction control, two-mode power delivery
KTM Adventure: fully-defeatable ABS
V-Strom 1000: none
'80 R80G/S: balls

Price
BMW R1200GS: $14,950
Ducati Multistrada: $14,995
Super Tenere: $16,000 (est)
KTM Adventure: $14,898
V-Strom 1000: $9,799
'80 R80G/S: n/a

As you can see, the new Multistrada comes out on top in terms of performance, but its 17" front wheel, street-biased tires and lack of engine or frame protection means its off-road capability is extremely limited.
This comparison is very unflattering for Super Tenere; it's the heaviest bike here by 77lbs and, thanks to the strong Yen, it'll likely be the most expensive too.
That weight, combined with the 19" front wheel and non-defeatable ABS is also going to limit its ability off-road.

All that means the BMW R1200GS and KTM 990 Adventure are, in our minds at least, still the leaders in this category.
Both are genuinely capable off-road, fast on it and comfortable over long distances.
If the high prices put you off, the Suzuki V-Strom looks like a bargain. Sure it'd need a couple grand in modifications before it could hit the dirt, but even with the add-ons, it'd still be the cheapest of this group.


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Nice. I think Im gona get a Wee Strom this year for a little adventure riding, 2up, longer rides.


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Here's HFL's take on the raw numbers - personally I think you have to ride them to judge the character. Some of their comments seem premature - like how the MultiStrada and Tenere would handle off road...

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With the release of the 2010 Yamaha Super Tenere and the Ducati Multistrada 1200, there's now five serious adventure tourers competing for your round-the-world budget.
We've broken them down by their performance figures to help you decide which one's best.

All these numbers come straight from the manufacturers.
We've chosen to use dry instead of wet weights since the relatively large difference in tank sizes would artificially skew the comparisons.
While these aren't the weights you'll experience as you try to navigate across a sandy slope, they do lead to the fairest comparison possible.
We've italicized what we feel is the winner in each category; in the case of rider aids, this is a bit subjective, feel free to decide which setup works best for you.
We've thrown the originator of the current adventure tourer archetype, the 1980 BMW R80G/S into the mix just to give you an idea how far things have come.

Power
BMW R1200GS: 110bhp @ 7,750rpm
Ducati Multistrada 1200 150bhp @ 9,250rpm
Yamaha Super Tenere 110bhp @ 7,250rpm
KTM 990 Adventure 105bhp @ 8,250rpm
Suzuki V-Strom 1000 98bhp @ 7,400rpm
'80 BMW R80G/S: 50bhp @ 6,500rpm

Torque
BMW R1200GS: 88lb/ft @ 6,000rpm
Ducati Multistrada: 88lb/ft @ 7,500rpm

Super Tenere: 85lb/ft @ 6,000rpm
KTM Adventure: 74lb/ft @ 6,250rpm
V-Strom 1000: 74lb/ft@ 6,400 rpm
'80 R80G/S 41lb/ft @ 5,000 rpm

Dry Weight
BMW R1200GS: 203kg (448 lbs)
Ducati Multistrada: 189kg (417lbs)
Super Tenere: 244kg (538lbs)
KTM Adventure: 209kg (461lbs)
V-Strom 1000: 207kg (456lbs)
'80 R80G/S: 186kg (410lbs)

Power to weight (bhp:kg)

BMW R1200GS: .54:1
Ducati Multistrada: .79:1
Super Tenere: .45:1
KTM Adventure: .50:1
V-Strom 1000: .47:1
'80 R80G/S: .27:1

Torque to weight (lb/ft:kg)
BMW R1200GS: .43:1
Ducati Multistrada: .47:1
Super Tenere: .35:1
KTM Adventure: .35:1
V-Strom 1000: .36:1
'80 R80G/S: .22:1

Tank Size
BMW R1200GS: 5.3 gallons
Ducati Multistrada: 5.3 gallons
Super Tenere: 6.1 gallons
KTM Adventure: 5.2 gallons US
V-Strom 1000: 5.8 gallons
'80 R80G/S: 5.2 gallons

Front Wheel
BMW R1200GS: 19"
Ducati Multistrada: 17"
Super Tenere: 19"
KTM Adventure: 21"
V-Strom 1000: 19"
'80 R80G/S: 21"

Rider Aids
BMW R1200GS: optional and fully-defeatable ABS
Ducati Multistrada: push-button adjustment of suspension height, power delivery and traction control, fully-defeatable ABS
Super Tenere: combined brakes, non-defeatable ABS, three-mode traction control, two-mode power delivery
KTM Adventure: fully-defeatable ABS
V-Strom 1000: none
'80 R80G/S: balls

Price
BMW R1200GS: $14,950
Ducati Multistrada: $14,995
Super Tenere: $16,000 (est)
KTM Adventure: $14,898
V-Strom 1000: $9,799
'80 R80G/S: n/a

As you can see, the new Multistrada comes out on top in terms of performance, but its 17" front wheel, street-biased tires and lack of engine or frame protection means its off-road capability is extremely limited.
This comparison is very unflattering for Super Tenere; it's the heaviest bike here by 77lbs and, thanks to the strong Yen, it'll likely be the most expensive too.
That weight, combined with the 19" front wheel and non-defeatable ABS is also going to limit its ability off-road.

All that means the BMW R1200GS and KTM 990 Adventure are, in our minds at least, still the leaders in this category.
Both are genuinely capable off-road, fast on it and comfortable over long distances.
If the high prices put you off, the Suzuki V-Strom looks like a bargain. Sure it'd need a couple grand in modifications before it could hit the dirt, but even with the add-ons, it'd still be the cheapest of this group.
Very interesting!
I did not know that the Multistrada did so well, just looking at the numbers. I wouldn't want to put up with those Desmodromic valves though, lol.

I'm a lurker on the stromtrooper.com forum. I'm always impressed at what those folks do to their V-Stroms.

BMW is ahead in our minds because of these guys:
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I compared the price of an R1 in the UK with the USA and the proposed price of the Super Tenere in the UK. If they bring it here it should be about the same prices as an FJR.


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as mentioned in another thread, the new Tenere is out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxK67...layer_embedded

I wish I could make my garage floor look like this ^

... and That bike is pretty sweet


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Very interesting!
I did not know that the Multistrada did so well, just looking at the numbers. I wouldn't want to put up with those Desmodromic valves though, lol.

I'm a lurker on the stromtrooper.com forum. I'm always impressed at what those folks do to their V-Stroms.

BMW is ahead in our minds because of these guys:
I just checked that link those guys are hooligans.








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Here we take a look back at how the Tenere has evolved since it's original launch in 1983:




1983 Yamaha XT600Z Tenere (34L)

Inspired by the Paris-Dakar racers which were campaigned to victory by Cyril Neveu and Yamaha Motor France in 1979 and ’80.
Basically an XT550 with an overbored engine, big, rally-style 30litre tank and race colours it soon became a best seller, particularly in France.


1986 Yamaha XT600Z Tenere (1VJ)

Second generation Tenere single intended to be even closer to rally bikes.
Although fuel capacity down to 21 litres, power up to 46bhp thanks to new carbs and air box. Also gets electric starter for first time.


1988 Yamaha XT600Z Tenere (3AJ)

Complete redesign with frame-mounted fairing incorporating twin headlights.
Tank capacity back up to 23 litres, engine completely reworked and disc replaces drum rear brake.


1989 Yamaha XTZ750 Super Tenere

All-new parallel-twin version of Tenere complete with twin front discs and massive 26-litre tank.
Race 750 and then 850 versions went on to win Paris Dakar a total of six times. Model discontinued in 1996.


1991 Yamaha XTZ660 Tenere

All-new five-valve, liquid-cooled version of single is good for 48bhp at heart of complete redesign.
Slimmer, less rugged and more road bias than before, with smaller 20-litre tank and shorter stroke suspension.


1994 Yamaha XTZ660 Tenere

Final version of last generation single cylinder Tenere had more streamlined bodywork with dual beam headlamp inspired by Super Tenere twin.
Deleted 1998.


2006 Yamaha XT660Z Tenere

All-new single cylinder Tenere based on 2004 XT660X, complete with updated styling and spec but traditional Tenere large tank, touring screen, long travel suspension and race colours.


2010 Yamaha Super Tenere 2010
The all-new 2010 Super Tenere follows the same basic template as the old XTZ750 - parallel-twin engine, twin headlights and a steel frame.
Only now it packs more tech than an R1, with 3-way traction control, linked ABS and a crossplane crank.


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