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June 6, 2003, 10:54 PM

When shifting from 1st to 2nd, my R1 has been hitting neutral a lot lately. Had this problem last year, but I though it was me getting used to the new bike. Wasn't a problem when I was shifting at 3k, but shifting at 9K I'm afraid of damaging the bike.

Is my clutch going bad? Come to think of it this never happens when I shift without the clutch. Or is the the first sign of a bigger problem...


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June 6, 2003, 11:16 PM

You talking about when you smash it and it will get caught inbetween gears and rev up, kinda like its in neutral but then finally kicks into the gear it was suppose to be in?

Mine does it to, just power shift without the clutch when you smash it. Shouldn't happen.


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June 6, 2003, 11:32 PM

The problem isn't likely your clutch. It could either be your shifting technique or more likely routinely with clutchless shifting at high RPM, you've been severely beating the transmission and might have bent the shift forks.

Technique: try lightly preloading the shifter with your boot BEFORE pulling in the clutch or lifting the throttle. The shift should be a quick "click." Make sure you KEEP applying pressure to the shifter as you reengage the clutch. Partially engaged gears can disengage when power is applied.

If this technique doesn't eliminate the neutrals, you might have damaged your transmission.

Disclaimer: This is all just a guess based on your post.


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June 6, 2003, 11:41 PM

Happens if I'm rolling on hard or easy, but mine really hits neutral - never makes it to second until i shift again. Really messes up the rythm and loses a lot of speed.

Thanks for the advice guys - I give both ideas a try. Hopefully it's technique and the transmission's not damaged.

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June 11, 2003, 05:41 PM

Might be as simple as your clutch is out of adjustment.
I'd have to se it to know for sure...


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Might be as simple as your clutch is out of adjustment.
I'd have to see it to know for sure...
I think he means he'd have to ride it for a week to know for sure!
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The way he's been talk'n lately - it may be longer than a week

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Happened to my r6 last nite. Wont grab 2/3/4 when downshifting but up shifts fine. Didn't decided to wait just took that bike to fast lanes.
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July 26, 2003, 06:01 AM

I've heard of this problem with a lot of R1s, and I'm pretty sure the solution was to replace the shift detent spring. Cheap, easy fix.

EDIT: The shift detent fix is for trannies that hang up on downshifts. If the bike is jumping out of second, that's bent forks and possibly a f*&ed 2nd gear. Mucho dinero.

You may want to park it until it's fixed as all those missed shifts are beatin' on the tranny pretty hard. just my .02.....

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July 26, 2003, 01:27 PM

My '02 and my '03 did that. I think thats its just nature of the beast. I just rode it and didn't worry about it. I had no problems :dunno:
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