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Cool 2012 Lexus LFA vs 2010 Nissan GT-R - July 18, 2011, 01:32 PM

We pit Lexus' first-ever supercar -- the $400,000 Lexus LFA -- against our long-term Nissan GT-R to find out which one is the king of the JDMs.



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‪Drag Race: 2012 Lexus LFA vs 2010 Nissan GT-R‬‏ - YouTube



2012 Lexus LFA vs 2010 Nissan GT-R Comparison - Motor Trend








Comparison: 2012 Lexus LFA vs 2010 Nissan GT-R

What Do You Need to Determine the Street Value of a $375,000 Lexus LFA? A Dyno, Dragstrip and An $87,000 Nissan GT-R.
From the August, 2010 issue of Motor Trend.


The phone rings. It's Bill from down the street, with an offer he thinks we can't refuse. While he's normally our local fix for luxurious, relaxing trips (that sometimes cause drowsiness), today he proffers something vastly different: all the speed we can handle for 12 hours. The catch is this deal needs to go down in the next three days. Miss that window and his special shipment gets loaded into a crate and flown back to the Far East. Think about it he says, and get back to me.



What is there to consider?



Bill, you see, reps Lexus and is offering a 552-horsepower dose of nose-candy-colored LFA. We're intrigued, but also irked at the short notice and implication that we're easy and desperate for such a rush. Like we'd just drop everything and clear our schedule for a taste of this $375,000 LFA.



We call him back and arrange to meet the early the next morning at an industrial park off the freeway in Riverside, California.




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They say the first hit is free, but this one is going to cost us a bit of our soul. Lexus USA owns but one LFA, a jet-black model used for advertising and potential customer events. This white one is on loan from Japan at substantial cost to the company -- air freight alone is some $40,000. Its time is up and it needs to go back ASAP, hence the last-minute notice.



It is also a preproduction prototype -- a crusher in industry parlance. It has no VIN or license plate, and sits on non-DOT-approved tires, so we can't drive it on the street. When we're done with it, it gets shipped back to Japan where it will likely be reduced to a fine, expensive powder. To ensure we don't facilitate an earlier end on this side of the Pacific, two watchful handlers will accompany us while we have it.



So, just how are we supposed to assess the LFA's street value with such draconian measures in place? We have a few tricks up our sleeve, but first we need verify its potency. Off to the speed shop.







The R&D center at K&N Air Filters dynos hundreds of cars a year in order to establish baseline figures and track performance of its products. Last year, K&N cycled its dynos over 6,800 times -- so often, that the companies that supply and support the dynomometer equipment use K&N's shop as a test bed for future upgrades. Bert, Dave, Kirk, and the rest of the guys that run the joint have seen a lot of cars come through, but judging by their reaction when the Toyota racing-liveried 18-wheeler pulls up, they haven't seen anything like the LFA.



Just what does $375,000 buy? About 3562 pounds of the purest, highest quality speed Japan has ever produced. Lexus claims a top speed of 202 mph from the LFA's 4.8-liter, Formula-1-derived, 552-horsepower V-10. Any way you cut it -- $232.00 per kilo or 6.5 lbs/hp -- those are impressive numbers. Are they for real? That's what we're about to find out.




Before we can even begin to strap the LFA down, it has to go up on a lift. There is small matter of removing three separate belly plans so that safety strap hard points can be accessed. Lexus claims it didn't initially plan on racing the LFA, and for the first time, that seems abundantly clear. More than 70 rubber gasket Torx bolts keep the front and two rear belly trays firmly attached to the car, necessitating some 30 minutes of removal time (and another 40 minutes to put it all back together).







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Though the LFA is rear drive, we strap it to K&N's all-wheel drive Superflow dynamometer. Why? Because we tested our long-term, 2010 Nissan GT-R on the exact same system a few months earlier. (But more on that later.) Expectations are high, and K&N's dyno squad has a ritual when special cars like this pull in. Everyone present picks a horsepower number and throws in a buck for a winner-take-all dyno lottery. Most of the guys don't know much about the LFA, except what they've seen and heard during the first exploratory pass. No wonder wheel horsepower estimates run from 450 at the low end to 545 (only seven hp off the official crank number); the LFA's wide open wail has the guys itching for the upcoming supercar super lotto.















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July 18, 2011, 01:46 PM

Honda NSX Successor Based On the HSV Racecar

CAR, CONCEPT, HONDA, SUPERCAR



According to officially report from Japan, Honda has announced its plan to develop a high-performance sports car based on HSV-010GT racecar as the NSX successor on Friday, at a press conference detailing Honda’s 2011 motorsport involvement. The new NSX replacement model will use same engine capacity with HSV-010GT 3.4 liter V8 engine, capable of more than 500 horsepower and 392 Nm (289 lb-ft) of torque.



Honda’s President Takanobu Ito also indicated that Honda may develop a cheaper and smaller sports car. “There are two types of sports cars (affordable and high-performance). I hope we will be able to market both,” he said.



By developing a street legal version of the Super GT competition model, Honda will respect an unwritten rule of the series, according to which all participating automakers have both a race and street legal version of a given nameplate.



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July 18, 2011, 02:44 PM

Motor Trend is retarded. 2012 vs a 2010 model? great comparision.

Put the LFA against the 2012 GT-R and see how badly it gets smoked.


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Not to mention the huge disparity in price


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NSX coming soon has been going on way too long. Personally, I doubt it will happen. NSX - A mid engine rear wheel drive all aluminium with 40/60 corner balanced is not what Honda is up to even with HSC. All about fuel efficient stuff.

Seems like Honda lost its sport car spirit. I really hope they come back.

GT-R is one ugly engineering marvel. Wish I had $ to own one. I like R34 better for some reason.
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GT-R is one ugly engineering marvel. Wish I had $ to own one. I like R34 better for some reason.
It didn't have to be that way. The original concept was smooth and sexy. Think a G-35 but more muscular.

But the CEO of Nissan said he wanted the car to "make a technological statement" ... apparently the designers took this to mean make it look like a mecha from Gundam Suit because that is what they used as the design inspiration on the design board.

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GTR is the best money spent dollar per dollar. Buy a GTR, take it to AMS for their Alpha 10 package. Alpha 12 is being worked on as well. Still would be less than half the price of the LFA.



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I just need Nissan to re-design the roof from the B pillar the C pillar....everything else i can live with.


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It didn't have to be that way. The original concept was smooth and sexy. Think a G-35 but more muscular.

But the CEO of Nissan said he wanted the car to "make a technological statement" ... apparently the designers took this to mean make it look like a mecha from Gundam Suit because that is what they used as the design inspiration on the design board.
+1. Skyline is one of my favorite car and of course I am biased to NSX NA1 formula Red to be exact

I hope Infiniti comes with skyline version.
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I love the LFA but don't really see it as a performance car. To me it's more of an exotic that you never track and you drive it up to places so people can be like "that's a Lexus?"

Like Top Gear said a while ago, it's an engineer's wet dream, so I view it as a test platform for a bunch of different technologies that could end up on a Toyota Supra remake or something. Bring back the NSX, Supra, and with the Skyline already here there could be some sick Japanese cars that would be pretty affordable for what you get


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GTR is the best money spent dollar per dollar. Buy a GTR, take it to AMS for their Alpha 10 package. Alpha 12 is being worked on as well. Still would be less than half the price of the LFA.

‪AMS Alpha 10 R35 Nissan GT-R goes 9.3@153 MPH - World's Quickest & Fastest R35 GT-R!‬‏ - YouTube

Check out the slip at the end. His reaction time was .87 seconds. Is part of that the launch control delaying the launch due to traction issues, or was it just a slow reaction from the driver.


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Ridiculous comparo... I'll take the GT-R and $300000, please.
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I love the Lexus...but visualy it just dont say Choose me over the new Aventor Lambo, Gulardo, Ferrari, of DBS...

It looks like a $75,000 to $120,000 car.... not $400,000.....


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Check out the slip at the end. His reaction time was .87 seconds. Is part of that the launch control delaying the launch due to traction issues, or was it just a slow reaction from the driver.
I'm sure he's not concentrating at the tree at all and mostly concentrating on the launch and maybe that's why he doesn't react as quickly. We would have heard about it if there was such a delay although the clutch has to slip a tiny bit with AWD in order to keep the diffs from destroying themselves.


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