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ACLU: VSP Monitoring Your Political Activities - October 10, 2013, 11:14 AM

Looks to be across the board, as both Obama and Palin campaign rallies were targeted.

https://www.aclu.org/blog/technology...-plate-readers

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October 10, 2013, 11:17 AM

What about that proves that they're using that data in any way?

Massive parking lots filled with cars is a good target for license plate readers because... it's a massive parking lot filled with cars

What are they supposed to be "tracking" with this data? Who ran this story? where did it come from?


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What about that proves that they're using that data in any way?

Massive parking lots filled with cars is a good target for license plate readers because... it's a massive parking lot filled with cars

What are they supposed to be "tracking" with this data? Who ran this story? where did it come from?

I had a court appointment a few months ago. When I stepped out of my car, I noticed a white unmarked SUV slowly rolling through the lot. I waited a moment, and it was a license plate reader truck scanning plates.

Go figure.

I wonder how long it will be before they require you to scan your fingerprint before you enter the courthouse.



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I'm betting it's being used for finding expired registration to fine people, or find stolen cars / fake license plates

scanners just make it faster / easier than typing it in their computers


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Cops stay doing this. It happens all the time around here because people steal license plates to put on their own cars and these plate readers catch it. Buddy is a cop, loves writing tickets for people who do that. Or if their tags are dead.


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Let me explain something to you guys. Every surveillance program, data collection, and data curation scheme is ushered in with seemingly benign and possibly even useful purposes. However, with the accurate linkage with individual metadata (location, nature of event attended, time arrived, time departed, route taken, etc.), the sky is the limit for when, how, and how badly a person or people in authority want to fuck you up. It is a short-circuiting of due process and a glaringly obvious violation of privacy.


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Let me explain something to you guys. Every surveillance program, data collection, and data curation scheme is ushered in with seemingly benign and possibly even useful purposes. However, with the accurate linkage with individual metadata (location, nature of event attended, time arrived, time departed, route taken, etc.), the sky is the limit for when, how, and how badly a person or people in authority want to fuck you up. It is a short-circuiting of due process and a glaringly obvious violation of privacy.
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Let me explain something to you guys. Every surveillance program, data collection, and data curation scheme is ushered in with seemingly benign and possibly even useful purposes. However, with the accurate linkage with individual metadata (location, nature of event attended, time arrived, time departed, route taken, etc.), the sky is the limit for when, how, and how badly a person or people in authority want to fuck you up. It is a short-circuiting of due process and a glaringly obvious violation of privacy.
Yes, so we should have appropriate oversight over those programs, a vigilant media, and non-profits like the ACLU, so cases such as this can be scrutinized and corrections made, as was the case here.

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Yes, so we should have appropriate oversight over those programs, a vigilant media, and non-profits like the ACLU, so cases such as this can be scrutinized and corrections made, as was the case here.
It also requires term limits for elected officials (ideally that you can only serve non-consecutive terms and have to go back home for the equivalent of the term you just served before running for any election) and no immunity of any kind when you are not in office as well as no super-special "retirement" plans, etc. Until we get rid of the current "ruling class" we will never be able to truly get control of this crap.


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It also requires term limits for elected officials (ideally that you can only serve non-consecutive terms and have to go back home for the equivalent of the term you just served before running for any election) and no immunity of any kind when you are not in office as well as no super-special "retirement" plans, etc. Until we get rid of the current "ruling class" we will never be able to truly get control of this crap.
I wasn't aware any of that came into play in this particular instance, or if it did, it didn't have much impact in the way of obstructing what needed to happen. This is a non-story, things worked as they should. There's no argument to be made here. I was pointing out things that contributed to the satisfactory resolution. How did you segue that into a comment about the "ruling class"?
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I wasn't aware any of that came into play in this particular instance, or if it did, it didn't have much impact in the way of obstructing what needed to happen. This is a non-story, things worked as they should. There's no argument to be made here. I was pointing out things that contributed to the satisfactory resolution. How did you segue that into a comment about the "ruling class"?
How is this a non-story?

If they hadn't been caught, they'd still be doing it today.
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