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Anyone know a good lawyer for Condo Bylaws? - March 10, 2011, 09:06 PM

Some drunk chick locked herself out of my condo last sunday, pulled the fire alarm just when I opened the door for her.

never met her, but apparently she was staying with her parents in the building so she's not a resident.

since i was there I called the fire department right away to let them know it was a false alarm, and then let the management office know everything I knew the day after.

tonight i receive a notice that the management office is filing two complaints against ME for the violation, which is pretty whack because the security footage should show that I tried to get her to stay in the lobby but she went in the elevator (wasn't about to fight her), and I live on the first floor.

anyhoo, I think i need a lawyer because this bullshit will not stand. Thanks in advance!

tl;dr: condo management office is trying to stick me for a false fire alarm I had nothing to do with.
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March 10, 2011, 09:10 PM

that sounds like a headache I sure hope someone hear can point you in the right direction
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March 10, 2011, 09:11 PM

tell them to check for fingerprints on the fire alarm pull


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March 10, 2011, 09:19 PM

Does not pay to try to do the right thing sometimes. You could have just stayed in your apartment and let it all go down and just acted dumb if they came to your door to ask questions.


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March 10, 2011, 09:46 PM

Too soon for a lawyer.

(1) I have my property manager send out nasty grams all the time. They're more or less an intimidation and posturing position unless you have specific proof of the violations - which would have been articulated in the letter. The Management office has to PROVE you were the one who pulled the alarm.
By way of you reporting the event to your management company is NOT an admission of liability or guilt. You simply happened to be the first person on the scene.

Note: Where you might have put yourself in a bit of a bind is when you let her in the building. Almost every bylaw states that unless a person is an authorized guest (of yours), you're not to let anyone in the building. You've already admitted you didn't know her - and I'm guessing you didn't get her name or the unit number she was staying in. That's probably one of the violations they can rightfully ring you up on.

(2) In the meantime, send a polite, but tersely worded letter to the management office refuting their version of events. Reiterate in the letter precisely what occurred and what you did, that you would like copies of the security video and any evidence they have which counters your version of events or leads them to suspect you are the responsible party, and a copy of this letter attached to March's Board of Directors management report.

CC: the letter to the Condo Board President and request a formal hearing with the Condo Board regarding this matter. Also CC: the unit owner of the guest (if you know it), since ultimately the unit owner is responsible for the conduct/actions of their guests while on the property if it results in damage to any of the common areas or fees are assessed to the budget (which is what the FD charged your complex for the false alarm).

If what you stated actually took place, and presuming you have your next Board meeting later this month - this whole thing should be resolved favorably by April after the BOD meets in private session to discuss your case and speak with management as to why/what evidence they have to prove it was you.

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March 11, 2011, 07:03 AM

that's a bit of a catch-22, i opened the door cause she was trying to pull the fire alarm.

oh well. thanks for the advice, i'll start writing that letter.


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Note: Where you might have put yourself in a bit of a bind is when you let her in the building. Almost every bylaw states that unless a person is an authorized guest (of yours), you're not to let anyone in the building. You've already admitted you didn't know her - and I'm guessing you didn't get her name or the unit number she was staying in. That's probably one of the violations they can rightfully ring you up on.
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I'm the Board President for two condos, serving 5 and 6 years respectively. Prior to this I was the Treasurer.

I've been through similar scenarios before.

The management company is retained by the board to handle the day-to-day and act in the community's best interest however, ultimately, the board has the power to instruct the management company on how to handle individual resident disputes.

Thus the request for a hearing at the next condo meeting to be heard before the BOD.

Smart BODs would rather eat the $200 "False Alarm" charge in the general operating budget as opposed to the resident turning around making it a full bore legal matter when there is no - or flimsy evidence, which in turn will cost significantly more than $200.



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that's a bit of a catch-22, i opened the door cause she was trying to pull the fire alarm.

oh well. thanks for the advice, i'll start writing that letter.
I wouldn't phrase it like that. More like "I heard a commotion and banging on the entrance door to my building. I went to investigate if someone was being assaulted or needed help. As I approached, I witnessed the female guest reach up and pull the fire alarm."



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March 11, 2011, 08:06 AM

all you have to do is contest it.
They will eventually back down.
you don't need a lawyer.


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I wouldn't phrase it like that. More like "I heard a commotion and banging on the entrance door to my building. I went to investigate if someone was being assaulted or needed help. As I approached, I witnessed the female guest reach up and pull the fire alarm."

Thats the letter right there!
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Sign them up for ghey midget pr0nz, poop in their shoes, photoshop their faces on sex offender posters and plant them around the condo.

Dog eat dog mang.
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Sign them up for ghey midget pr0nz, poop in their shoes, photoshop their faces on sex offender posters and plant them around the condo.

Dog eat dog mang.
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Im with Heist - Dont need a lawyer.


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