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Anyone own BMW 7 Series? - July 18, 2012, 10:18 AM

Geeting curious.......

Looking used 2006-2008.......Any stories?

I know the price drop is insane, 90k new 30k used....due to warranty? Maint?


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DONT DO IT! YOU WILL DUMP MONEYZZZ into it like never before...
there is a reason that body style (E65/66) depreciates like a mofo on crack, if you really want a 7 series, I recommend the E38 body style, cheaper parts, simpler electronics, no annoying i-drive, looks sexier too, my 2 cents.

I owned a bunch of older BMWs, mostly E30s and E34s, but the E38 7-series is my second favorite.


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Why are they such crap?

I've heard most Beemer are first buyer only cars....once the go used the are MEH


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Why are they such crap?

I've heard most Beemer are first buyer only cars....once the go used the are MEH

This is a older link but it still holds true. There is a reason why the rich lease them and then lease another in three years. They are horrible to keep running and everything is expensive as hell. Same with Jag's.

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Why are they such crap?

I've heard most Beemer are first buyer only cars....once the go used the are MEH
Its mainly the expensive ass, over-engineered parts, and needlessly complex electronics issues, (vacuum operated door seals, complex seats, cam-bus interfaces, i-drive) the E65 was the first body style big 7 that BMW went literally buck shit wild with new, unproven tech just to have new unproven tech. Not to mention VANOS cam issues, power steering pump issues, transmission control module issues, god the list goes on and on. so long story short, unless you can fork over at least double the asking price, cause half of it will easily go towards maintenance, don't do it man. I love older BMWs cause they are just easier to work on and look better too.


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Same with Jag's.
Not completely true. Yes, the parts/maintenance on these cars are expensive; they are LUXURY cars. However speaking from personal experience, Jaguars have been VERY reliable. Not referring to the "fake" S & X types either. Dealt with several XJ8s and an XJR.


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Not completely true. Yes, the parts/maintenance on these cars are expensive; they are LUXURY cars. However speaking from personal experience, Jaguars have been VERY reliable. Not referring to the "fake" S & X types either. Dealt with several XJ8s and an XJR.
Yea I heard the same about Jags...X and S type. BMW 7 series all I hear about is electronics messing up and costing $$$ to fix.
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Not completely true. Yes, the parts/maintenance on these cars are expensive; they are LUXURY cars. However speaking from personal experience, Jaguars have been VERY reliable. Not referring to the "fake" S & X types either. Dealt with several XJ8s and an XJR.

I am not as up to date as I used to be with Jags. I do know is there was never a summer one of them was not in a raging fire on rout 7 in Tysons Corner.
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July 18, 2012, 11:08 AM

The reason why the Bangle designed 7s are so cheap are two fold.
First, the electronics were a horror fest. In the final year of that body style they finally sorted out all the gremlins (pretty much) but until then the car was problem plagued.

Second, I-Drive. Too many crucial functions and settings were linked to I-Drive and it wasn't easily navigable nor necessarily intuitive.



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I can't wait to trade in my '01 BMW X5 with 120K miles. It's been nickle and diming me since about 100K miles. I don't think I would keep one past 80K miles if I planned to do it again (and I don't.) Needlessly-complex plastic components disintegrate and warp (coolant reservoir, tail light pods) Fun to drive, strong engine (at least the v8,) but after replacing the radiator, hoses, two window pulleys, and observing the growing number of mechanical squeaks, creaks, and pops, it has taken the fun out of the car.


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Also, OP if you're seriously looking at used luxury German sedans you should check out the VW Phaeton.

That car was over engineered in every way much like the MBs of the 80s. It's price on the used market it not reflective of its quality, intrinsic value, or reliability but more so that it has a "Volkswagen" badge slapped on it.

What many do not know is that 80% of the car is sourced for/from the Bentley Continental GT.



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I can't wait to trade in my '01 BMW X5 with 120K miles. It's been nickle and diming me since about 100K miles. I don't think I would keep one past 80K miles if I planned to do it again (and I don't.) Needlessly-complex plastic components disintegrate and warp (coolant reservoir, tail light pods) Fun to drive, strong engine (at least the v8,) but after replacing the radiator, hoses, two window pulleys, and observing the growing number of mechanical squeaks, creaks, and pops, it has taken the fun out of the car.
The general rule with most all BMW's produced before the end of the Chris Bangle era is once it hits ~100K on the clock, either plan to get ride of it or spend 10% of the original sticker price on repairs and component replacement every 2 years or so.

What BMW gets absolutely right - more right than any other brand in the non-exotic market is the 6-cyclinder engine, chassis and steering feedback. The total driving dynamics of the car.

Everything is else is supplier orientated and a toss up. Bosch has been the bane of this brand since when I owned a 318 in the early 90s. The constantly are the source of many of the reliability problems in BMWs. I cannot understand why they haven't used Magnetti or Infineon.



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July 18, 2012, 12:31 PM

Get a (used, fresh) Audi, they have been considered better than Merc and BMW for the last 10 years in EU. Resale value sucks vagina (they still have bad name in the US for some weird reason), but that's a plus when buying used.


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Get a (used, fresh) Audi, they have been considered better than Merc and BMW for the last 10 years in EU. Resale value sucks vagina (they still have bad name in the US for some weird reason), but that's a plus when buying used.
I concur and confirm.
Audi's name still has a bad taste due to the 5000 sudden acceleration problems of the 80's and they did not promote themselves as strongly in the US in the mid-90's when ze Germans changed course and philosophy about their brand presence, and decided to stop being aristocratic and run TV and Radio Ads.



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