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Armed Activist Storm and Take Over Federal Building in Oregon - January 4, 2016, 01:13 PM

Strangely no one is calling them thugs, domestic terrorist, or shooting tear gas and rubber bullets at them.


Armed protesters refuse to leave federal building in Oregon




BURNS, Ore. — A group of armed anti-government activists remained encamped at a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon on Sunday evening, vowing to occupy the outpost for years to protest the federal government’s treatment of a pair of local ranchers set to report to prison Monday.

The occupation of a portion of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, about 30 miles southeast of Burns, Ore., began a day earlier, after a small group of men broke off from a much larger march and rally held on Saturday evening

The armed occupation is being led by Ammon Bundy, an Idaho rancher whose father, Cliven Bundy, led an armed standoff with federal agents in Nevada in 2014 and who has described his supporters as “militia men.”

“Those who want to go take hard stand, get in your trucks and follow me!” Ammon Bundy declared to rally-goers at the conclusion of Saturday’s event, according to several people who were in attendance. Not long afterward, the group had taken over the federal wildlife preserve.

“These men came to Harney County claiming to be part of militia groups supporting local ranchers,” Ward said in a statement Sunday. “When in reality these men had alternative motives, to attempt to overthrow the county and federal government in hopes to spark a movement across the United States.”

Organizers of the rally say several hundred attended the procession through Burns, Ore. — a ranching town of less than 3,000 residents — in a show of support for Dwight Hammond, 73, and his son Steven Hammond, 46, who in the conclusion of a decades of clashes with the federal government were sentenced last October to serve five years in prison.

Prosecutors accused the Hammonds of committing arson on federal land in 2001 and 2006. The men and their attorneys argued that the fires had been set on their own property — once to prevent the spread of an invasive species of plant and once in attempt to prevent the spread of a wildfire — and had inadvertently burned onto public lands. But prosecutors said the fires were set in attempt to destroy evidence that the Hammonds had been illegally hunting deer on the federal lands.

The two men have previously served prison time for the crimes, but earlier this year a federal appeals court concluded that their initial sentences had been too short — arson on federal property carries a mandatory minimum sentence of five years — and ordered the men back to prison.

“We all know the devastating effects that are caused by wildfires. Fires intentionally and illegally set on public lands, even those in a remote area, threaten property and residents and endanger firefighters called to battle the blaze” stated Acting U.S. Attorney Billy Williams,in a statement issued after the Hammonds were sentenced. “Congress sought to ensure that anyone who maliciously damages United States’ property by fire will serve at least 5 years in prison. These sentences are intended to be long enough to deter those like the Hammonds who disregard the law and place fire fighters and others in jeopardy.”

At a news conference on Sunday, Ammon Bundy said his group had not heard from law enforcement since taking over the unoccupied site and urged other citizens from across the country to join their effort.

If a standoff resulting in violence occurs, Bundy said, it would begin on the government’s side.

“This refuge here is rightfully owned by the people and we intend to use it,” he said, adding that they plan to assisting ranchers, loggers, hunters and campers who want to use the land. “We will be here as a unified body of people that understand the principles of the Constitution.”

The occupation of the wildlife refuge, which was not occupied when stormed by the men, comes at the conclusion of a lively weekend for an otherwise sleepy stretch of southeast Oregon.

Snowdrifts and miles of desolate highway studded with sagebrush and tumbleweed separate Burns, Ore., near the refuge, from Boise, Idaho, the nearest big city, which is about 220 miles away. Little traffic was headed toward Boise on Sunday evening, but regulars at the Oasis, a restaurant in Juntura, Ore., said groups of travelers coming from Idaho had been stopping for food and gas on the way to Burns, where they hoped to lend support to the protesters. They didn’t want to talk about it too much. The subject was too sensitive, they said.

Along the 60 miles from Juntura – more a restaurant stop than a town – to Burns, ranches could be spotted about every 20 miles or so among the rolling hills, along with horses and cattle. It was just below freezing, with nighttime lows headed toward 13 degree



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Read about it. It's pretty messed up but you can't just grab your guns and take over a building. The Bundy guys are nut jobs. My tin foil says it's all staged at the request of Odumma. He needs ammo (pun intended) for his EOs.

To the OP, if they were throwing rocks, looting, and burning down CVS's and other businesses, we'd probably see the same response we saw in Baltimore.
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To the OP, if they were throwing rocks, looting, and burning down CVS's and other businesses, we'd probably see the same response we saw in Baltimore.
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... My tin foil says it's all staged at the request of Odumma. ...
My tin foil says that Obama and his administration might actually get paid by the NRA and munitions manufactures.

Sounds contrary to popular believe but every time he mentions guns, the sales of guns and ammo go through the roof... you couldn't even get .22 rounds for a while. haha!

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My tin foil says that Obama and his administration might actually get paid by the NRA and munitions manufactures.

Sounds contrary to popular believe but every time he mentions guns, the sales of guns and ammo go through the roof... you couldn't even get .22 rounds for a while. haha!

Follow the money and you'll find answers.

I've seen this hypothesis floated by a few others on here lately. What evidence do you have to support it? Do you have any evidence other than association?

One the other hand, I think if you took some time and studied Obama's past, all the way back to his college days, you'd gather a large body of evidence to the contrary.


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Other people have said this?! I thought it was my original idea ... maybe it was me that posted it before, haha!

Anyway no, I have nothing to back up this theory and have spent no time researching it.

I was kinda just making a joke that anytime, anyone, does anything, its generally because they stand to benefit (profit) from it.


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Side note: The stock prices for (SWHC) Smith & Wesson, and (RGR) Sturm, Ruger & Company have both doubled this year.

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