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Exclamation Armed Robber Shoots Sheriff's Cruiser; Forces Deputy To Give Up Gun - October 23, 2007, 01:31 AM

HAGERSTOWN, MD - Police are searching for two armed and dangerous men after a bank robbery on the Dual Highway in Hagerstown.

They're accused not only of stealing from a bank at gunpoint, but also taking a police officer's gun and shooting at a police vehicle.

No one has been injured, and police say that is very lucky, given the brazen nature of what the two suspects did Monday afternoon.

Police say they responded to the M&T Bank around 2:00 p.m. The teller inside was talking on the phone when two black men wearing ski masks came in and demanded cash. At that time, she alerted the person she was talking to and they called 911.

A Washington County Sheriff's deputy was the first on scene. When he got there, police say he saw a man walking towards the woods behind the bank.

When he pulled up in his cruiser, the suspect drew out a shotgun and pointed it at the deputy. The deputy then opened his door and the man put the barrel of the gun into the car and demanded the deputy's gun.

The deputy gave the weapon to the suspect. That's when the suspect shot at the cruiser's tire, hitting the rim before taking off with a second suspect towards the Weis store.

"The suspect put the shotgun between the door and door frame and pointed it directly at the sheriff's deputy and demanded he relinquish his firearm. The deputy did hand over his sidearm to the gentleman. At that point the suspect backed up and pointed his shotgun at the front tire and shot the tire," says Sgt. Paul Kifer with Hagerstown City Police.

A shopper inside the Weis Market on Eastern Boulevard says she heard a gunshot. She says customers were held inside the store for about five minutes.

It took a while to release students from Pangborn Elementary because of the incident. Police either released walkers to their parents or escorted them to their school bus. The school system also alerted parents using the emergency voicemail system.

The bank was closed down for the rest of the day and it will re-open for normal business hours tomorrow.

Police are looking for two black men. One is described as a tall, skinny man while the other is much shorter and stocky. Witnesses say they were wearing dark clothes at the time of the incident.

It is believed they fled in the scene in a car that was parked behind Weis Market. Police have no description or information on that car. They’re asking anyone who may have seen the suspects in the vehicle to call Hagerstown City Police at (301) 790-3700.


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October 23, 2007, 01:42 AM

Sheriff's deputy should of shot him....
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October 23, 2007, 05:31 AM

Easy for you to say.


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Yeah not so easy when they are on top of you before you get out of your cruiser.


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Not everything you see in the movies is real.. Exploding gas tanks, tire being blown off the rim, stupid shit like that gets people killed. Even though a officer is never supposed to give up his weapon, there are times when it has to happen. The suspect could have easily killed him, and then taken his weapon, and cruiser. But he choose to disable it. A back-up weapon, should have come into play at some point. Mine is a sub-compact 45, Glock. At 20 plus yards that shotgun isnt going to mean shit, when engaging him properly.

Not to mention @ that point, gunfire has been put into play. Officer's life has been threathen, and the general safety of the public is now @ risk. Most any officer should have responded the same way. With that being said, each situation is different.


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Not everything you see in the movies is real.. Exploding gas tanks, tire being blown off the rim, stupid shit like that gets people killed. Even though a officer is never supposed to give up his weapon, there are times when it has to happen. The suspect could have easily killed him, and then taken his weapon, and cruiser. But he choose to disable it. A back-up weapon, should have come into play at some point. Mine is a sub-compact 45, Glock. At 20 plus yards that shotgun isnt going to mean shit, when engaging him properly.

Not to mention @ that point, gunfire has been put into play. Officer's life has been threathen, and the general safety of the public is now @ risk. Most any officer should have responded the same way. With that being said, each situation is different.


"Most any officer should have responded" or most any citizen in my interpretation of the US militia and 2nd amendment. I'd be mighty thankful if an armed and trained fellow American saved my arse 'cause he was carrying that day!

EXACTLY the reason I carry a properly permitted concealed M1991 Colt .45 (80 year anniversary edition of the M1911, trusty officer's sidearm through 2 world wars and a sh!t-pot-full of conflicts). Depending upon what I'm doing my backup is a S&W .38 special 5 shot titanium hammerless revolver with hollow points. It's tiny, super lite, and fits about anywhere.

More Americans should be prepared -- you never know when you might save someone's life. Not to mention that I"m pretty partial to my own (:

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I can destroy a moving clay target from 20 yards easily

20 standing still I dunno I would take the shotgun against a sidearm any day of the week


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Could he control the situation? No.

A shotgun pointed at you before you could pull your gun out is a shitty situation to be in and pretty much unwinnable unless you are Chuck Norris.

You cannot fault this officer for his actions, and he should not be punished.


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I can destroy a moving clay target from 20 yards easily

20 standing still I dunno I would take the shotgun against a sidearm any day of the week
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Most engagements take place within 5-7 yards, on avg. Considering, I am usually carrying a UMP-45 while on duty. My pistol is my back up in those situations. You will do in real life what you do in training. Most reg. LEO's cant say they carry such heavy firepower @ a moments notice. Tactically, things could and should have been done different. But every situation is different, and calls for different tactics.

For now, the officer is alive, and no else has been killed or hurt by his service weapon.


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Happened about 5 miles from me. Can't say I blame the guy, even though I understand why they will have to investigate it.


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This would be a good case for a chip in the handgun that will not let it operate unless the user has a transponder on him. Glad the LEO did not get shot!


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"The suspect put the shotgun between the door and door frame and pointed it directly at the sheriff's deputy and demanded he relinquish his firearm. The deputy did hand over his sidearm to the gentleman.
No armed robber should be called a gentleman!! Who the h@ll wrote this piece? Should be fired on the spot (yes, pun intended)!


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20 standing still I dunno I would take the shotgun against a sidearm any day of the week
No, I'm with you -- the officer had no choice. He was a dead man otherwise.

I'm talking about the fact that it was done in daylight with people around. Just sucks that no one else could help out -- just goes to show what can happen in broad daylight!

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Easy for you to say.

If I were him and depending on what exactly happened I would of been prepared to use my firearm correctly.
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