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Automakers to gearheads: Stop repairing cars! - April 28, 2015, 10:59 AM

Interesting "unintended consequence" (phrase of the decade) to an older law on the books. I wonder if/ when it will carry over to bikes.
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The dispute arises from a section of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act that no one thought could apply to vehicles when it was signed into law in 1998. But now, in an era where cars are rolling computing platforms, the U.S. Copyright Office is examining whether provisions of the law that protect intellectual property should prohibit people from modifying and tuning their cars.


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Ehhh soon there won't be gears for gear heads anyway. Just computers with electric motors. Haha


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April 28, 2015, 11:12 AM

This is aimed more at ECUs than anything else. I would then look to circumvent the stock ECU with an aftermarket computer thing in order to "not" modify the ECU

Still dissapointing for racers if it happens, but doesnt mean you can't change your oil then post to facebook about how much of a man you are


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Gotta ask what oil to use first
I think it also has to do with reverse engineering things to then build aftermarket goodies. I wonder if I should start stockpiling ECUs now. If folks won't want to flash their own so they could return it to OEM as needed.


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April 28, 2015, 02:51 PM

This might have deeper implications in the future. While the law is being amended you might find that some surprise clauses have been added to it that also end up affecting your warranty etc. If they really care about the ecu's well being maybe block the direct flashing of the ecu and still allow piggyback systems for tuning. I still am suspicious of this new interest in modifying this law.


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Ehhh soon there won't be gears for gear heads anyway. Just computers with electric motors. Haha
Soon we won't be driving either. The computers will handle most of the mundane stuff. Manual controls will be registered and exceeding certain parameters will automatically be uploaded and sent to the DMV.



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This is aimed more at ECUs than anything else. I would then look to circumvent the stock ECU with an aftermarket computer thing in order to "not" modify the ECU Still dissapointing for racers if it happens, but doesnt mean you can't change your oil then post to facebook about how much of a man you are
Well once the Bro Country types find out they can't rig the ECUs on the diesels to roll coal, then it'll hit the fan.



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Soon we won't be driving either. The computers will handle most of the mundane stuff. Manual controls will be registered and exceeding certain parameters will automatically be uploaded and sent to the DMV.
Yup. Spot on! And honestly I'm surprisingly fine with it; especially since I realize I'll be old and greatly benefitted by this.


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Yup. Spot on! And honestly I'm surprisingly fine with it; especially since I realize I'll be old and greatly benefitted by this.
Hopefully you will be fine with them setting the fees at whatever rate they want to rape you for as well.
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Hopefully you will be fine with them setting the fees at whatever rate they want to rape you for as well.
So it's a personal robot taxi? Hmm, that's fine I guess. Hop in the car with some beers, watch a movie, arrive at Thanksgiving to see my grandchildren.

But whose they? The government? The Auto Makers? They both already charge fees, not sure why an automated car would be more prone to fees. Traffic would be 100% better, accidents would be 100% lower, travel times 100% faster.

I was recently talking to someone about texting and driving and said "Its not texting that's the problem, its driving." As a motorcyclist I don't trust anyone driving, people are just horrible at it.


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So it's a personal robot taxi? Hmm, that's fine I guess. Hop in the car with some beers, watch a movie, arrive at Thanksgiving to see my grandchildren.

But whose they? The government? The Auto Makers? They both already charge fees, not sure why an automated car would be more prone to fees. Traffic would be 100% better, accidents would be 100% lower, travel times 100% faster.

I was recently talking to someone about texting and driving and said "Its not texting that's the problem, its driving." As a motorcyclist I don't trust anyone driving, people are just horrible at it.
I was speaking to the idea that you can't repair your own car. I missed where you quoted Heist. I have no problem with self driving cars.
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I can't wait to sleep an hour and a half on my way into work. It only takes me an hour on the Ninja, but I'd leave earlier and cage it if I was just a passenger, most days.
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I can't wait to sleep an hour and a half on my way into work. It only takes me an hour on the Ninja, but I'd leave earlier and cage it if I was just a passenger, most days.
Exactly my thoughts. Road-trips are going to be so much more bearable.

Currently, any road-trip that requires 10+ hours of driving, I would cringe. But with an automated car, take me to California for all I care. LOL


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