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Capturing the Atom Bomb on Film - Audio & Photos - NYTimes.com

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What have we done to this poor planet? Think of all the radiation that went into the waters that are surely fished on a daily basis...I have no other way to describe it, but simply amazing.

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What have we done to this poor planet? Think of all the radiation that went into the waters that are surely fished on a daily basis...I have no other way to describe it, but simply amazing.

Thanks for sharing this.
Yes...all that radiation...you do realize that the total "radiation" (if you could quantify it that way) released in all the nuclear explosions ever detonated is roughly the same as all the radiation in a yearly harvest of Florida oranges right? Or the total radiation from natural sources present in the actual people living on earth (natural potassium is radioactive)....but think of the children! (those little mildly radioactive bundles of beta emitters)


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What impresses me even more was that back then, they were using only a few hundred pounds of Uranium 235 to get these massive yields during testing. Up until then the most power stuff we knew about was TNT. I don't think we even had RDX based explosives yet.

(Now I believe we measure we use Plutonium and the explosive power is exponentially larger)

What is even scarier is that most of the people who thought most of this up weren't even Americans.
For the most part, they were Jewish/German ex-pat Scientist who left as Hitler took power. Imagine how much of a different world this would be had Germany had this technology during the war. Scary.

Sometimes I wonder what happens when some brilliant scientist figures out how to create, control, and sustain a large energy fusion process. I'd be very interest to see how that power is used.



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What impresses me even more was that back then, they were using only a few hundred pounds of Uranium 235 to get these massive yields during testing. Up until then the most power stuff we knew about was TNT. I don't think we even had RDX based explosives yet.
We had (and used millions of pounds of) RDX in WWII (comp B perhaps)
The only major advancements in HE since WWII (when HMX and RDX were first used significantly) been only recently with the extreme strained ring explosives.

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(Now I believe we measure we use Plutonium and the explosive power is exponentially larger)
Plutonium was used in both trinity and on Nagasaki...I can't comment on what is used today.

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What is even scarier is that most of the people who thought most of this up weren't even Americans.
For the most part, they were Jewish/German ex-pat Scientist who left as Hitler took power. Imagine how much of a different world this would be had Germany had this technology during the war. Scary.
Well, they represented a pretty good cross section of Europe (polish, German, Austrian, Italian, etc.) most of the key guys had left Germany well before hitler came to power, and the contribution of Americans cannot be discounted...

As for fusion...were you looking for a more efficient use than in hydrogen bombs? Because those are pretty damn efficient. Honesty, i did some pretty groundbreaking fusion work a while ago...but I'm a fission guy now, the problem with fusion (google an article called "the trouble with fusion" by lidsky (my late advisor) is energy density and energy gain. With proper design and waste burnup, a combination of breeder reactors and accelerator transmutation of waste or breeder reactors and a concept like the Livermore "LIFE" fission/fusion hybrid can give us all the energy we would ever need, and zero waste.


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Yes...all that radiation...you do realize that the total "radiation" (if you could quantify it that way) released in all the nuclear explosions ever detonated is roughly the same as all the radiation in a yearly harvest of Florida oranges right? Or the total radiation from natural sources present in the actual people living on earth (natural potassium is radioactive)....but think of the children! (those little mildly radioactive bundles of beta emitters)

You know too much....

... or I know too little.

Either way, thanks for putting it into perspective. It's still f'd up. So my comeback now is -- poor little dolphins that got blown up in that shiz

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You know too much....

... or I know too little.

Either way, thanks for putting it into perspective. It's still f'd up. So my comeback now is -- poor little dolphins that got blown up in that shiz

(what can you say to that? BAAM!)
The bathythermograph charges used to determine ocean temperature and salinity before the detonation in ocean tests likely scared them away...that and unless they were swimming RIGHT THERE, they would likely be totally okay. BAM!


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Dolphins? You mean THESE DOLPHINS!?!?!?!?!?

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The bathythermograph charges used to determine ocean temperature and salinity before the detonation in ocean tests likely scared them away...that and unless they were swimming RIGHT THERE, they would likely be totally okay. BAM!
Fack it you win. The world was unphased by the testing. But I do reserve this space for future witty comebacks! Check soon


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Fack it you win. The world was unphased by the testing. But I do reserve this space for future witty comebacks! Check soon
Well, I wouldn't say unphased...background levels of tritium increased for a few years to levels barely detectable by instruments that had to be specially designed for that purpose...oh, and "end of the world movies" got better plot lines...


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