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Car searching, opinions - July 10, 2012, 06:30 PM

So I'm looking at trading my car (11 Lancer GTS) for something with a little more power. Dropping two gears and mashing the accelerator pedal to pass is old...

I want something with more go, tight enough to do an occasional autoX, can pull a trailer with a bike & gear to the track, and can get at least 25mpg highway.

I can't get down with a pickup as a DD, even something like a Taco X-runner, I tried...really I did. Looked at a Mazdaspeed 6. I liked it, but I've had a hard time finding one that hasn't been too molested in some capacity and the reviews on reliability are iffy. A Legacy GT spec.B with a manual gearbox is too hard to find. WRX/STi/Evo are out of my price range, at least for one that hasn't been gangbanged and I think my driving record would implode from the attention I'd attract and my heavy ass right foot. Mazdaspeed 3, the only hatchback I actually think is pimp inside and out, has solid reviews, but I kinda want AWD to help with the hauling of crap and overcome torque steer.

So with all of that, what other 2006+ cars would fit into my mold and be worth checking out?


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July 10, 2012, 07:21 PM

Used Audi A4 V6 Quattro w/Sportline Package.

S4 if you're willing to step your budget up another $5-7K.

edit: Sportline is now called "S-Line."



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horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you
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OMG YOU N00b! WHY TOW WITH A SPORTS CAR, IT'LL ASSPLODE!

Oh wait, this isn't a car forum...



Want, but the 5-0 and insurance like it raw with no foreplay....


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I feel like a Mustang fits in here: Inexpensive, Decent Power, Decent Handling, Seems like it would tow a Bike and Stuff... Or basically any other American muscle car, Camaro, Charger, Challenger, ect...


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^^^No AWD. He wants something with AWD.



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AWD is Gay!
*We live in DC, you only need AWD here if you are pushing 500+ HP to your wheels!

I lived in NY all my life and loved my Impreza AWD in the winter!! But AWD adds lots of weight, kills MPG, and is just one more thing to fail...

But I do agree Front wheel drive sucks, especially for towing...


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AWD is Gay!
*We live in DC, you only need AWD here if you are pushing 500+ HP to your wheels!

I lived in NY all my life and loved my Impreza AWD in the winter!! But AWD adds lots of weight, kills MPG, and is just one more thing to fail...

But I do agree Front wheel drive sucks, especially for towing...
FWD sucks for everything. Weight distribution, balance, handling, traction, acceleration. The only legitimate purpose for FWD, in my opinion, is for novice drivers as FWD cars typically have gobs of understeer dialed in.

AWD adds marginal weight; most newer systems are 200-250lbs. About the weight of a full grown man. Gas mileage is reduced by 1/2MPG. Marginal again. One can lose 2/4 MPG in any car through underinflated tires or running there A/C.



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I've only driven FWD up until this point and it is driving me crazy. Torque steer, under steer, and chirping tires from getting on the throttle just a little bit is getting old. The Lancer does to it's credit have a pretty nice suspension setup from the factory and is excellent for what it's target is. I was getting 31 MPG while doing 95 up 495 to Shady Grove :ninja

But the MS3 looks so damn good...damnit FWD making it hard to cope with...

RWD in the winter? Sounds painful? I don't know if a good set of all seasons or snows would help. The Camero is too damn small for my 6'3" self. I'll assume the same for the rest of American muscle. If I did RWD the. The 13 Genesis Coupe would get hard looks from me...more then I wanted to spend optioned out but it looks like a poor mans GT-R

I say AWD since it would be easier to turn it into my own Sport Utility Vehicle

As far as FWD towing. Flat land is straight. Hills...gets a little suspect but not horrible....IF loaded correctly....



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I haven't sat in the newer Camaro, but my old one had way more room for the driver than a Lancer.
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Used Audi A4 V6 Quattro w/Sportline Package.

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...and there it is.

If you can find a used Audi Allroad, that's another good sleeper. They're undervalued and immensely flexible. The only criteria it would probably difficulty meeting is hustling it around an Autocross course without a little suspension tuning.



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RWD in the winter? Sounds painful? I don't know if a good set of all seasons or snows would help.
A RWD on snow tires will out handle and out pace an AWD car on all-seasons.
AWD has traction advantages in acceleration on slippery/low traction surfaces and when the tires are coming close to exceeding their traction limit and slip angle in turns.

But Snow tires on FWD/RWD will perform better than any AWD system in the snow and ice.

Conversely, Snow Tires on a AWD vehicle will make the car feel like it was shod with tracks and will run rings around a FWD/RWD car shod similarly.



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