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Christian Veterans Protect the Funeral of a Fallen Soldier - March 4, 2011, 01:50 PM

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Some douchebags do not deserve freedom of speech, especially if they can not respect the people fighting to uphold their "freedoms"
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Some douchebags do not deserve freedom of speech, especially if they can not respect the people fighting to uphold their "freedoms"
Selective freedom of speech is no freedom at all. Beware someone in power dislikes what you have to say. Westboro has been correctly protected in our highest court as an ironic tribute to the ideals people have died for.

Westboro doesn't want freedom of speech, they want a psychotic ultra-conservative christian theocracy to rival the middle east.


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I'm definitely not advocating selective freedom of speech, possibly selective sterilization

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Selective freedom of speech is no freedom at all. Beware someone in power dislikes what you have to say. Westboro has been correctly protected in our highest court as an ironic tribute to the ideals people have died for.

Westboro doesn't want freedom of speech, they want a psychotic ultra-conservative christian theocracy to rival the middle east.
Yes it isn't his speaking that bothers me, it's what he would like this country to become that is really frightening!


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March 4, 2011, 02:16 PM

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Selective freedom of speech is no freedom at all. Beware someone in power dislikes what you have to say. Westboro has been correctly protected in our highest court as an ironic tribute to the ideals people have died for.

Westboro doesn't want freedom of speech, they want a psychotic ultra-conservative christian theocracy to rival the middle east.

The shitty thing is: if everyone would ignore them, they'd go away.

They finance themselves off suing people who retaliate, people who slander them in the press, etc.

If everyone ignores them, they run out of money.



On the other hand, now that lies and slander are considered and upheld by the courts as 'protected speech' (the first via the overturning of Stolen Valor, the second via the recent Westboro decision...)

It means that I am fully within the law to go out there in a pedobear outfit with a "Phelps touches children" sign.

Who cares if it's slander and lies? The courts say that shit is protected!


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I don't know about this case specifically, but here is the problem I have with these stories...

If the family kept their private event to family and friends, this wouldn't be an issue in the first place because these protest groups would have no idea when and where the funeral is. But these families end up turning the funeral into a public spectacle inviting random people, local politicians, etc. So if they want a public spectacle, they should be able to deal with unwanted public criticism as well.

On the other hand, this could be just because the family didn't foresee this happening. The last think I would think happens at some family member funeral is that a bunch of crazy people come out to protest... I guess maybe I can see both sides. But definitely not when you have these funerals televised and all the local politicians vying for air time.
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I don't know about this case specifically, but here is the problem I have with these stories...

If the family kept their private event to family and friends, this wouldn't be an issue in the first place because these protest groups would have no idea when and where the funeral is. But these families end up turning the funeral into a public spectacle inviting random people, local politicians, etc. So if they want a public spectacle, they should be able to deal with unwanted public criticism as well.

On the other hand, this could be just because the family didn't foresee this happening. The last think I would think happens at some family member funeral is that a bunch of crazy people come out to protest... I guess maybe I can see both sides. But definitely not when you have these funerals televised and all the local politicians vying for air time.
Locations of funerals have been published in obits forever... even small gatherings are being desecrated by these fucks


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Hmmm... I guess I haven't really looked at obits... Maybe the best way to deal with these people is to ID them and name and shame...
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Hmmm... I guess I haven't really looked at obits... Maybe the best way to deal with these people is to ID them and name and shame...
Next Arlington protest lets troll the fuck out of them


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I was thinking ill wear a diaper and carry a sign saying "Fred phelps touches kids.


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