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detention for using firefox - December 27, 2007, 12:00 PM

whoah... teachers are soo out of the loop.




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FYI,

this was proven to be a hoax.

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December 27, 2007, 12:07 PM

shit


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didnt find it on snopes...

seems legit:

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/...-it/#more-2531


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glad it was fake, cause id go take it the school board.


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December 27, 2007, 12:11 PM

i found it on boygenius...not on snopes that I could find..


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I know it's a hoax, BUT...
If I'm a teacher, and the assignment is to use XYZ internet search program... Kid uses ABC and says it's better than XYZ? I tell kid to use XYZ as my previous instructions stated. Kid refuses? Kid gets detention. Period.


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fak...read damnit.. michael hasnt shown anything to prove it is a hoax....

boy genius report doesnt put up fake shit....


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December 27, 2007, 12:16 PM

Yeah that makes sense.

I took AP Comp Sci back in High School. Our teacher was going to use Turbo Pascal 3.0 to teach it, when Turbo Pascal 6.0 was out. I used TP 6.0 and the teacher asked what I was using. He was unaware that there was newer versions out (hah!). So he got Turbo Pascal 6.0 for the entire class and we used the modern version.

Teachers not willing to listen to their students and attempt to understand/talk to them FTL.


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I'm giving the teacher the benefit of the doubt. There could have been a reason for using a particular search engine. Kid should address it with the teacher prior to beginning the assignment. I bet the teacher would have been open-minded to an innovation, unless there was a good reason not to be.


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December 27, 2007, 12:28 PM

good point.. however if you are a teach for a "technology" class, you should have known to begin with that firefox was fine and should also know that technology runs rapidly..

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December 27, 2007, 12:29 PM

I have to say screw the teachers decision, as a teacher they need to be up to date on what's out. Especially if they are teaching. Just because the kid uses something better to get a more in-depth find doesn't mean he did it wrong. Guidelines are never ment to completely followed if they were we wouldn't have innovation.


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I'm giving the teacher the benefit of the doubt. There could have been a reason for using a particular search engine. Kid should address it with the teacher prior to beginning the assignment. I bet the teacher would have been open-minded to an innovation, unless there was a good reason not to be.
It doesnt seem that way, though. The teacher saw something they didnt know (eg: Firefox.exe) on some process list and thought the student was slacking off. The student told the teacher what the technology was and instead of investigating it and verifying what the student said, the teacher just said "Do as I say" and then gave out detention.

Regardless.. they are both at fault. Student should have complied after being warned, but teacher showed close-mindedness by not listening to the student and perhaps LEARNING something from them.


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I think we are reading too much into this (possibly fake) letter. Who's to say the teacher did not go investigate about firefox and eventually shift to it? Or that the teacher knew about firefox, but the class exercise was designed around explorer, and the student would yield different results (making grading and troubleshooting difficult) with firefox? The only thing we can definitively draw form the letter is that the kid was told to do soemthing in class, did something else, was warned about it, he argued back and persisted until detention was issued. Sounds right to me. Obviously the teacher listened to the kids protests enough to remember them and write them in the letter, so he was not completely ignored.

Teachers purposely handicap their students all the time in class so all the students can be on the same page for purposes of grading, answering questions, learning basiscs, etc. If I had tried using calculators in many of my math classes, I would have failed, even though a calculator was faster, more accurate, and I assume the teacher knows of it's existence.


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Possible reasons for the teacher to forbid use of Firefox:
- Didn't know about Firefox (probable, but irrelevant)
- Teacher knew other search engine was better (not likely, but possible)
- Students progress monitored using tool on 'other' search engine.
- Keep level field for all students without introducing unknown performance factor.

...and the answer is (as Thwacker said best), the kid was told, did something else, was warned, and argued.

Junior Einstein was not stifled here. This kid was just resisting rules.


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Quote:
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Possible reasons for the teacher to forbid use of Firefox:
- Didn't know about Firefox (probable, but irrelevant)
- Teacher knew other search engine was better (not likely, but possible)
- Students progress monitored using tool on 'other' search engine.
- Keep level field for all students without introducing unknown performance factor.

...and the answer is (as Thwacker said best), the kid was told, did something else, was warned, and argued.

Junior Einstein was not stifled here. This kid was just resisting rules.
Just another reason why JohnnyV is awesome! Thanks for taking a teacher's side.


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