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Discuss - McCain: 45 new nuclear reactors by 2030 - June 18, 2008, 09:43 PM

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Hot diggity damn...but WHY FUCKING 22 FUCKING YEARS FROM NOW ASSHOLE

Hey, at least its better than mr. solar and wind and tidal energy obama


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I don't think 22 years is an overly ambitious timeline for implementing a project of that size and complexity...particularly when the price of doing it wrong is so very high.


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Im glad to see some one pushing for these, Im hoping more will see the bennefit and there will be a realization these power sources are probably Americas best option.


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I don't think 22 years is an overly ambitious timeline for implementing a project of that size and complexity...particularly when the price of doing it wrong is so very high.
It took less than 22 years to go from the first research reactor...ever... to more than 45 reactors.

Its not that big of a project, and its definitely not complex...as for the price of doing it wrong? um...what might that be? true, if we built really crappy reactors like the russians did, yeah, there might be bad things, but considering even the very first US system had more protective systems than that POS, I think we are okay...

All the points in that article about it taking so long are flat out wrong...22 years is a stall tactic so its "somebody else's problem" and he doesn't get hammered by the anti-nuke crowd.

I just lost a bit of respect for McCain, nothing like picking a topic where you can actually make a change...and giving a crap answer.


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McCain said the 104 nuclear reactors currently operating around the country produce about 20 percent of the nation's annual electricity needs.
"Every year, these reactors alone spare the atmosphere from the equivalent of nearly all auto emissions in America. Yet for all these benefits, we have not broken ground on a single nuclear plant in over thirty years," he said. "And our manufacturing base to even construct these plants is almost gone."
Even so, he said he would set the country on a course to build 45 new ones by 2030, with a longer-term goal of adding another 55 in the future.
"We will need to recover all the knowledge and skills that have been lost over three stagnant decades in a highly technical field," he conceded.


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No ... this is meaningful.

Nuclear is a no brainer. We've run subs and ships off of reactors since the 60's w/o significant incident.

On the land-based side ... yes, there was 3-mile Island (for those that remember). But that was ancient technology compared to what we have now.

If they wanted to replace the coal system at Possum Point (10 miles from here) with a nuclear reactor ... I'd be good with it. I would not want to have it literally in my back yard, tho. (as in "look out the window honey, lot more steam today than usual"). I don't think anybody would.


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I don't think 22 years is an overly ambitious timeline for implementing a project of that size and complexity...particularly when the price of doing it wrong is so very high.
The price....?

How about the price of staying directly linked to fossil fuels for energy production.

There is always going to be an up front cost but one that will certainly pay dividends in this case.

Like his direction...his timeline is BS.
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Apparently, there's one foundry in Japan that makes the vast majority of containment vessels as they're the only ones capable of making them large enough for commercial reactors. Last I knew, they're booked for the next decade or so and not overly anxious to add capacity as they're in a nice supply-demand situation. I'd imagine this would contribute to slowing things down.

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June 19, 2008, 07:16 AM

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Meaningless.
agree. The world will end in 2012 anyways(according to the History Channel)


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agree. The world will end in 2012 anyways(according to the History Channel)
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June 19, 2008, 08:40 AM

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No ... this is meaningful.

Nuclear is a no brainer. We've run subs and ships off of reactors since the 60's w/o significant incident.

On the land-based side ... yes, there was 3-mile Island (for those that remember). But that was ancient technology compared to what we have now.

If they wanted to replace the coal system at Possum Point (10 miles from here) with a nuclear reactor ... I'd be good with it. I would not want to have it literally in my back yard, tho. (as in "look out the window honey, lot more steam today than usual"). I don't think anybody would.
CORRECT!! It is completely safe and the technology has matured.

IT WILL TAKE SO LONG BECAUSE, it takes a while to construct the infrastructure. You're not building a dog house... and the more careful you are, the safer it will be.

Slow and steady = safety. Talk to any Naval nuclear engineer, and he'll probably say that he's 'in a hurry'.
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