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isnt taking a chick out on a date (where you pay for everything) that results in sex at the end of the nite prostituation?
Good Point.

What if you advertise on craigslist that your willing to pay someone to take them out and use them as your date? Would that be considered as prostitution?
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Good Point.

What if you advertise on craigslist that your willing to pay someone to take them out and use them as your date? Would that be considered as prostitution?

isnt that a escort service?


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as far as I've heard Escort services are not illegal....like full on walk the street prostitution is not legal in NV but you can advertise for a call girl/escort. Then in some area/zone they have the bunny ranch brothel type thing.

I think the bigger issuse is that IF prostitution became legal then human trafficking would be that much more of an issue. Essentially, it's like saying okay everybody slavery is legal again...only no one is picking cotton....their blowing dicks.

And really I don't think the vast majority of women have it in themselves to self manage their pimpin...then need someone to do it for them. Hence a pimp.

Lastly as fucked up as our world is...why would you want to willingly contribute to the detriment of humans. I mean sure we all love a piece of ass but is it really worth having wondering woman from broken backgrounds who can only contribute to society laying on their back and opening their legs????

Why not have a professional wife who is capable of running shit companies, govemenments, schools, and still do the same. I'd rather have that then a selection pool of hookers. Really seriously when is the last time you've seen a prostitute that looked as good as the non-prostitute type of women.

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I guess some guys use prostitutes because there wives won't take a tea bag, or go hard with ATM, or let you toss ropes or give them a pear necklace.

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I guess some guys use prostitutes because there wives won't take a tea bag, or go hard with ATM, or let you toss ropes or give them a pear necklace.

im just guessing.
I am assuming you meant pearl necklace.....if not then please explain.......cause if you did mean pear necklace then as usual you are a trend setter sir!!!

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as far as I've heard Escort services are not illegal....like full on walk the street prostitution is not legal in NV but you can advertise for a call girl/escort. Then in some area/zone they have the bunny ranch brothel type thing.

I think the bigger issuse is that IF prostitution became legal then human trafficking would be that much more of an issue. Essentially, it's like saying okay everybody slavery is legal again...only no one is picking cotton....their blowing dicks.

And really I don't think the vast majority of women have it in themselves to self manage their pimpin...then need someone to do it for them. Hence a pimp.

Lastly as fucked up as our world is...why would you want to willingly contribute to the detriment of humans. I mean sure we all love a piece of ass but is it really worth having wondering woman from broken backgrounds who can only contribute to society laying on their back and opening their legs????

Why not have a professional wife who is capable of running shit companies, govemenments, schools, and still do the same. I'd rather have that then a selection pool of hookers. Really seriously when is the last time you've seen a prostitute that looked as good as the non-prostitute type of women.

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I think regulation would cut the number of women/girls trafficked for the purposes of sex slavery. Just like leglization of pot would cut the "bad guys" out of the production and distribution chain...regulation would give means to make sure organized crime, especially eastern-European criminal rings, from profiting on "white slavery" aka sex trafficking. Just because you don't think its a good job doesnt mean *some* dont like it. Those high end escorts like Elliot Spitzers girls weren't forced by drug addiction nor coercion to do what they did, they liked the money and the job. Now how to regulate strip clubs so they too aren't utilizing forced labor....
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as far as I've heard Escort services are not illegal....like full on walk the street prostitution is not legal in NV but you can advertise for a call girl/escort. Then in some area/zone they have the bunny ranch brothel type thing.

I think the bigger issuse is that IF prostitution became legal then human trafficking would be that much more of an issue. Essentially, it's like saying okay everybody slavery is legal again...only no one is picking cotton....their blowing dicks.

And really I don't think the vast majority of women have it in themselves to self manage their pimpin...then need someone to do it for them. Hence a pimp.

Lastly as fucked up as our world is...why would you want to willingly contribute to the detriment of humans. I mean sure we all love a piece of ass but is it really worth having wondering woman from broken backgrounds who can only contribute to society laying on their back and opening their legs????

Why not have a professional wife who is capable of running shit companies, govemenments, schools, and still do the same. I'd rather have that then a selection pool of hookers. Really seriously when is the last time you've seen a prostitute that looked as good as the non-prostitute type of women.

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If you make it legal and regulate it there is no need for a "Pimp" I'm no talking about letting hookers on every street. More like a setup that the brothels in NV use. Mandatory testing (this cuts down on STDs). The girls can refuse a client and not have to be afraid of a beatdown from a pimp or the client themselves.

There are plenty of women now who's only real skill is laying on their backs. Now they would have an avenue of income.

Sure I would prefer an awesome wife. But until you (or I or whoever) meet said awesome wife...why can't one legally purchase the services of a woman is is willing to provide them?

Strip clubs are legal. I'd venture to say that from a moral standpoint they are just as bad as a house of prostitution. The act you want to commit may be illegal.. but you WANT to do it...and that's not moral

I guess I'm just not one for wanting the government to make morality choices for me.

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I think the bigger issuse is that IF prostitution became legal then human trafficking would be that much more of an issue. Essentially, it's like saying okay everybody slavery is legal again...only no one is picking cotton....their blowing dicks.

Lastly as fucked up as our world is...why would you want to willingly contribute to the detriment of humans. I mean sure we all love a piece of ass but is it really worth having wondering woman from broken backgrounds who can only contribute to society laying on their back and opening their legs????
Sorry, I think you're completely backwards on both these issues.

If prost. was legal and regulated human trafficking for that purpose would be MUCH more difficult and probably not worth doing. As it is now.. In the dark.. Anything is easy and hidden and shadowed.. White slavery and trafficking is easy because nothing is monitored. But when legal these things become more difficult much and much less worthwhile.

As for the spread of disease.. Every study I have ever heard of shows that the problem is greatly reduced as part of the price of having a regulation is required testing. As it is now.. There is no testing. No nothing.

As to the second point you listed.. Legalizing would do what??? Because it is NOT illegal we have the worst of that sort involved as it is.. Does that stop anyone from going? Just look in craigslist.. It going strong.. If you make it legal, then in every likelyhood the qualiity of the people involved would likely go UP not DOWN.. Jeez.. You can't get worse than what we already have going in that regard.. lol..

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None of the above.

Promiscuous sex is a public health concern, much like needle sharing and drunk driving. The physical, mental, and psychological consequences of prostitution stand to place too great a burden upon society to legalize. You have to understand that shows like Taboo do not always provide you with all of the information. Prostitution was seen as problematic long before Christ walked the earth so you can't blame the Christians and some Puritan prudishness. Governments are implemented to protect the interests and well-being of society and the greatest number of its members. Societies throughout history have viewed it as a threat and have acted.

Want evidence? Look at the 60s and free love and all that. The fulfillment people expected to find in sleeping around just wasn't there. Instead they felt more empty and alone than ever. There is plenty written on it, although it doesn't get much play on shows like Taboo.

Hey I like sex as much as the next guy, but to me it's not worth getting an STD or experiencing the let down after a night of meaningless sex.
Wait a second.. People are ALREADY going to prostitutes all the time.. Just look in craigslist.. physical/mental issues? People have gone since the beginning of time. I would even go as far as saying the one og the main reasons why the US leads the world in mass murderers is because of the sexual repression we have here. And what about the poor guy who is too ugly or socially inept to ever get a date? I guess he has to go through life as a virgin having never experienced the closeness of another human being besides his mother. As shallow as paid sex might be, its better than going through life without any at all.

Last I checked, of "Promiscuous sex is a public health concern, much like needle sharing and drunk driving", none are regulated.. And legal prost of not, all of these will continue to be issues for us. Sorry, but promiscuous sex and prost are NOT the same thing. If you legalize prostitution and regulate it the safety factor goes WAY up. A pro is NOT going to have unprotected sex with anyone. Secondly she/he would be required to be tested regularly. Its a much safer system.

Again.. Your reference to "Look at the 60s and free love and all that" relly doesn't have anything to do with legalization of prost. Its a completely different thing. Prost was around long before the 60's and will remain forever. Its always been there and will never go away. So why not control it and at least TRY to make it as safe as possible.

And as far as who pays? Why would it be a burden on the gov? Prost is a multi billion dollar industry.. taxing it could be a goldmine for the gov. Not a drain..

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- Not necessary so. There are many countries/regions where prostitution has NO stigma or taboo and is seen as a normal trade and regular part of society.

And not just "uncivilized" nations ... Japan for example has a long and revered history for Geisha girls. Now, yes, Geisha was more than just sex - it was a craft of being the ultimate hostess and pleasing your male guests, but still enough it was prostitution.
I agree with your first statement 100%

Actually, prostitution was legal in Japan long before the Geisha came along. In Japan, well after the legalization and regulation of prostitution had already occurred, the Geisha gradually came about as the daughters of fallen aristocracy needed a way to earn a living. Since these women were all well educated and trained they did this via high class entertainment for rich men. Sometimes, but often not, including sex.

Many countries, and even the Roman Catholic Church at one time, have seen prostitution as a necessity for a healthy society.The idea being that if men had no outlet for their sexual needs then BAD THINGS COULD HAPPEN.. (please reference my other post talks about mass murder in the USA).. lol..

BTW, Govs throughout history have used legalizing and taxing it as a way to save themselves from bankruptcy (the romans were famous for this).. So saying legalizing it would be a drain on gov resources is ridiculous..


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still dont see how it would cut down on "unethical" lol practices...

so you mean Nike isn't having shoes made in sweatshops...anymore??? Just b/c it's legal doesn't mean it's gonna cut out all illegal activity. People will see MONEY and aim to have the best PRODUCT. How are you gonna get the product?

Essentially, what would cut out one legal brothels' pursuit for quantity of women? It's not like a whole bunch of women are just gonna show up to be whores going through interviews and application processes. It doesn't mean it's gonna be regulated to the point where everything is clean...not all restaurants have clean food standards regardless any inspection.

And how would legalized prostution cut out a pimp??? I think some of you alls thoughts are backwards...who the heck is going to MANAGE the women...A MADAME or A PIMP...who is going to bring the women CLIENTLE???

Otherwise a woman isn't really being a professional whore....she is just being a regular women who sleeps with men in exchange for money(plus whatever else)...just like every other regular woman or regular man....


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still dont see how it would cut down on "unethical" lol practices...

so you mean Nike isn't having shoes made in sweatshops...anymore??? Just b/c it's legal doesn't mean it's gonna cut out all illegal activity. People will see MONEY and aim to have the best PRODUCT. How are you gonna get the product?

Essentially, what would cut out one legal brothels' pursuit for quantity of women? It's not like a whole bunch of women are just gonna show up to be whores going through interviews and application processes. It doesn't mean it's gonna be regulated to the point where everything is clean...not all restaurants have clean food standards regardless any inspection.

And how would legalized prostution cut out a pimp??? I think some of you alls thoughts are backwards...who the heck is going to MANAGE the women...A MADAME or A PIMP...who is going to bring the women CLIENTLE???

Otherwise a woman isn't really being a professional whore....she is just being a regular women who sleeps with men in exchange for money(plus whatever else)...just like every other regular woman or regular man....
> still dont see how it would cut down on "unethical" lol practices
look at ANY statistics where its occurred.. ALL say things got better.

Hey.. I never said it was PERFECT.. Nothing is ever perfect. I said it would CUT DOWN on those things. Probably by a lot.. Will they still be there, of course they will. They always have been, they always will be.. But the worst is out there NOW. The worst is what we presently HAVE.. Go look in the phone book and try to find a massage that doesn't finish with a happy ending.. You want a BJ at home on your sofa? Give me 5 minutes, a phone and a computer and I'll have her there for you, sucking away, in an hour.

Britain and Canada both have legal prostitution. Both systems work much better than the wild west show we currently have. Basically the only rule they have is "keep it off the street".. lol.. and it works just fine.

haha.. Some history.. Did you know that during the civil war in New Orleans (and other places) the prosts would carry a piece of carpet around with them so they could screw the client right there in the street? THey often wouldn't even bother to find an alley.. lol.. And prost was perfectly legal during the time of our founding fathers.. Was our nation destroyed because of it?

Prost is ONLY illegal in the US to the level that it is because of the religious mortals and the view that it is indecent and immoral and a sin. No valid reasons.

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If you make it legal and regulate it there is no need for a "Pimp" I'm no talking about letting hookers on every street. More like a setup that the brothels in NV use. Mandatory testing (this cuts down on STDs). The girls can refuse a client and not have to be afraid of a beatdown from a pimp or the client themselves.

There are plenty of women now who's only real skill is laying on their backs. Now they would have an avenue of income.

Sure I would prefer an awesome wife. But until you (or I or whoever) meet said awesome wife...why can't one legally purchase the services of a woman is is willing to provide them?

Strip clubs are legal. I'd venture to say that from a moral standpoint they are just as bad as a house of prostitution. The act you want to commit may be illegal.. but you WANT to do it...and that's not moral

I guess I'm just not one for wanting the government to make morality choices for me.

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It's not ok to walk down the street with your dong hanging out, or for a woman to go shirtless to the pool.

Why?

Impropriety. Society will tolerate a certain level of impropriety. Specifically, because of the roots of the start of the country ours will tolerate less than others. Additionally it's very dangerous to compare other countries to America. We are unique because we are so much larger, with unique side-bar issues such as large scale gun ownership, racial tension, etc. These things all lend themselves to big questions in reference to societal response.

It shouldn't be a federal issue. This is a state, possibly a local government issue. Like dry counties, or cities with no open container laws like Las Vegas. The point is that it should be decided by the people in the locality what their preference is concerning this stuff. This is NOT something that should be mandated at federal levels. There is no "right" answer here.


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