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Dog/Vet Med. People, please help - March 20, 2009, 04:05 PM

Hey guys...

Otto, my Boston Terrier, has been acting really really strange for a couple days. He's a normally a completely hyper retard, but he's been just kind of trotting around and just seems kinda down.

Also, he'll have these little spells that are sort of a dry-heave mixed with a goose honk. It's gross, I know

He typically gets really overly excited and drinks and eats too fast. Often throws it right back up. Now, he's barely eating much of anything, and when he does he starts on the honking thing again.

I looked it up online (don't you hate when people do that?), and it sounds like Canine Trachael Collapse.

I have an appointment with the vet....on the freakin' 31st!

I'd like to know he's not going to croak before then, so if anybody out there in .net land has any experience with this kind of this, any assistance or advice you could provide would be greatly appreciated.

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March 20, 2009, 04:54 PM

yea that sounds about right... a friend of mine has the same situation with his female pitbull the vet said it was caused by an injury and that they will never be able to cure it only treat it... anyhow you better get used to the goose honk cuz he will most likely do it for the rest of his life.... the dog that has this does the same thing about every 30 mins or so and the vet said she will do it for the rest of he life but will be ok...


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An injury?

I play really, really rough with him. He loves it. Hope that didn't cause it.


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An injury?

I play really, really rough with him. He loves it. Hope that didn't cause it.

unlikely an injury, tracheal collapse is predominantly found in aging dogs and will cause the trachea to form a C as opposed to an O. This will lead to difficulty breathing and hyperventilation to the point of near suffocation (at which point they lose control of their bowels etc) Also watch for lots of coughing...but you looked this up on-line so you know this. ..

Older dogs can also be prone to laryngeal paralysis which would cause trouble breathing as well..starts on one side and then moves to the other.

Your dog would really be wheezing and panting if either of these were present. Typically start to see it when the weather warms up..since they need to pant and will have difficulty sustaining the right rate..

check the color of his gums - pink being good (oxygenated) and blue being bad...will tell you more if it is a breathing problem

If it is either one, keep the dog relaxed, no stress or over exertion to avoid the wheezing/coughing spells

Regardless, make sure the dog is drinking

you can always call a house-call vet, less traumatic to the dog and less or equal $ from my experience..


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unlikely an injury, tracheal collapse is predominantly found in aging dogs and will cause the trachea to form a C as opposed to an O. This will lead to difficulty breathing and hyperventilation to the point of near suffocation (at which point they lose control of their bowels etc) Also watch for lots of coughing...but you looked this up on-line so you know this. ..

Older dogs can also be prone to laryngeal paralysis which would cause trouble breathing as well..starts on one side and then moves to the other.

Your dog would really be wheezing and panting if either of these were present. Typically start to see it when the weather warms up..since they need to pant and will have difficulty sustaining the right rate..

check the color of his gums - pink being good (oxygenated) and blue being bad...will tell you more if it is a breathing problem

If it is either one, keep the dog relaxed, no stress or over exertion to avoid the wheezing/coughing spells

Regardless, make sure the dog is drinking

you can always call a house-call vet, less traumatic to the dog and less or equal $ from my experience..

good advice but the dog I was referring to is only 2yrs old and the vet insist it was caused by an injury...


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good advice but the dog I was referring to is only 2yrs old and the vet insist it was caused by an injury...
no argument there at all...just meant that tracheal collapse typically is degenerative..in my limited experience


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unlikely an injury, tracheal collapse is predominantly found in aging dogs and will cause the trachea to form a C as opposed to an O. This will lead to difficulty breathing and hyperventilation to the point of near suffocation (at which point they lose control of their bowels etc) Also watch for lots of coughing...but you looked this up on-line so you know this. ..

Older dogs can also be prone to laryngeal paralysis which would cause trouble breathing as well..starts on one side and then moves to the other.

Your dog would really be wheezing and panting if either of these were present. Typically start to see it when the weather warms up..since they need to pant and will have difficulty sustaining the right rate..

check the color of his gums - pink being good (oxygenated) and blue being bad...will tell you more if it is a breathing problem

If it is either one, keep the dog relaxed, no stress or over exertion to avoid the wheezing/coughing spells

Regardless, make sure the dog is drinking

you can always call a house-call vet, less traumatic to the dog and less or equal $ from my experience..

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The wheezing thing just happens in spells. This morning before work, and in the 2 hours I've been home, it hasn't happened.

This is difficult, be he is by nature extremely energetic and anxious. He gets buttloads of exercise, but is just naturally wired. I'm doing everything I can to keep him calm.

Thanks very much for you insight, I really appreciate it.


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Well I wouldn't start jumping the gun on CTC.

and the example below are just from things that I go through
Has the dog had any surgery recently that required him to be put under (this could go a month back, and possible reaction to the tube)

I understand he's now only 2 yrs old, but this is when seizure start to arise on epeliptic dogs an this could be a possiblity. (blood work will be one thing to help see about this, but talking a video of the event and showing it to your vet usually helps the most if it doen'st happen in front of the vet.)

we now own a very demanding epeliptic german shepherd that after coming to the states about two weeks later found out he was sick

it's allergy season and it could be a change of cleaning methods, sleeping area, living quarters, etc that will cause a change in a dog. let me tell ya weekly allergy injections are a piece of cake if aren't angry one day when you give it and they never forgive you.

anyway best of luck on finding out what the issue is.
Just keep you and your dog calm and gently pet him when he starts to wheeze and talk him through the episode and take note of how long it lasted and what was going on when it started
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Well I wouldn't start jumping the gun on CTC.

and the example below are just from things that I go through
Has the dog had any surgery recently that required him to be put under (this could go a month back, and possible reaction to the tube)

I understand he's now only 2 yrs old, but this is when seizure start to arise on epeliptic dogs an this could be a possiblity. (blood work will be one thing to help see about this, but talking a video of the event and showing it to your vet usually helps the most if it doen'st happen in front of the vet.)

we now own a very demanding epeliptic german shepherd that after coming to the states about two weeks later found out he was sick

it's allergy season and it could be a change of cleaning methods, sleeping area, living quarters, etc that will cause a change in a dog. let me tell ya weekly allergy injections are a piece of cake if aren't angry one day when you give it and they never forgive you.

anyway best of luck on finding out what the issue is.
Just keep you and your dog calm and gently pet him when he starts to wheeze and talk him through the episode and take note of how long it lasted and what was going on when it started

Thank you. My guy's 6 y/o.

After researching this (and pitbike stuff) all night, I really think it's CTC. All the syptoms are right in line with what's going on.

Nothing in his life has changed at all. Allergies wouldn't be causing these reactions, and he's never had any allergy issues before.

He did receive that shot they give at the kennel a few weeks ago, but symptoms just started a few days ago.

First Buddy-dog randomly dies one night, and now this. I sure hope this turns out well....

Thank you again.


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Sounds like kennel cough.


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Kennel cough sounds like a gagging goose?


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Kennel cough sounds like a gagging goose?
Don't think so. My dog had kennel cough and he never reacted the way your dog is, other than just hard panting and basically sounds like an old man running out of breath (although the vet said it was normal). His only lasted about a week but he stayed energetic and bouncy most of the time. I'm not a dog expert or anything but I just wanted to mention... or maybe it could be kennel cough, just a severe case of it and your dog is being affected by it? I guess you can't really rule that out either. I hope your dog pulls through man.


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My mom's dog had a collapsing trachea. At first it was the honking and we thought it was allergies. We took him to the vet many times. It got worse and worse, to the point that he would not eat, drink, sleep, or play. I finally did a google search (like you..lol) and the collapsing trachea came up. I found a specialist who did a special x-ray (don't remember which one) and diagnosed him with a collapsing trachea. He had surgery where they put a ring in his trachea and now he's fine. He was about 5 years old. The surgery was done in Miami and it was pretty pricey.

I don't know if this is what your dog has but I thought I'd share the experience.

*Found it! The name of the test for a collapsing trachea is a Fluoroscopy, which is a form of X-ray in which continuous motion is visible. It won't show up in a regular x-ray (non-moving). If you think it's a collapsing trachea, take him immediately to the vet. They can suffocate and die. My mom's dog almost did.


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