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Exclamation Electric vs. Gas Home Water heater. - November 5, 2018, 09:35 PM

Oddly, I get some of the best info here on shit that most middle age men know, handle, deal with.

Todays topic is water heater Gas vs. Electric

*At my DC location I have a 18 year old 40 gallon gas water heater.

* In Va I just bought a 40 gallon with 4500 upper and 4500 lower wattage heating element on a 240 volts line.

I need to replace the DC house, because that shit is corroding. Lots of corrosion on the piles and heater itself. Im scare something might burst while im out of town.

She is near the electric panel (genius lol) so the installer said same price to replace gas or install electric WH.

Me personally ... I am scared of gas lol. My house is 1923 and every time something got old I replaced with electric.
But I have
*gas stove,
*gas water heat
*Gas Boiler/Furnace (radiators)
*(and recently replaced my gas dryer with an electric one.)

Bill wise...I do not know the conversions rate, but to me...it seems like gas cost more than electricity.

Both houses I am the only one living their and using water items.

One of the things I hate about the Gas water heater is the fact that I have to vent it for one and have had dead bird or animal clog up my lower chimney and have carbon monoxide back up.

Another item I hate about my gas furnace and gas hot water heater is the pilot light is always lit. To me its a total waste of gas and might be the reason it seems high.

I need to research and see if modern hot water heaters have electronic ignition that lights when it need to come on or if they are still pilot lit style.

What do you guys think?

The contractor told me to stick with gas...he only said...it's better lol no reason why.

I am totally 60/40 right now...60 = electric.


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November 5, 2018, 10:21 PM

I did find this article...and its pretty good comparison. Makes me think about keeping the gas over the electric.


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November 5, 2018, 10:37 PM

well youtube answered one question i had...if hot water heaters came with electronic ignition vs. constant pilot light.... but looks like id have to have receptacle put in..no problem and they seem to break lol vs. pilot.

I wonder what the savings would be from pilot vs. electric ignition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEo2znK4X7c


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November 6, 2018, 12:18 AM

Gas is almost always cheaper to run than electric. I have a 20 year old HWH with a pilot and during the summer, gas bills at my house rarely climb over $22. That includes hot water, oven and range. I can only imagine what it would be with a newer, higher efficiency HWH.


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November 6, 2018, 06:03 AM

To be honest both make models that are incredibly efficient compaired to 1 or 2 decades ago.
I just converted my whole house to electric only.
I can tell you that with 4 kids (meaning a ton of baths, dishs, and loads in the washer a week, the electric 80 gal we have cost less then 2 dollars a day.


Get a new model of what ever you want that is rated energy efficient, and if you want to really keep a tight budget also get a tank wrap and pipe wraps for the hot portion of the coper for the first 5 to 10 feet of the pipe out if you can reach it.


I have done a lot of home remodeling and a full renovation recently where i actually tested energy consumption during each appliance install... and realized nearly every water heater cycles when not in use and will reheat during the day when the internal tempature drops... meaning the heat dissipating out of the tank even without use, uses about half your bill of using it full time.


If you dont use it a lot having a tank wrap and pipe wraps will cut an idle hot water bill portion of about 30 a month to 10-15 a month. It does add up.
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Have you explored tankless water heaters? Seems like for a single dude, they would be even more ideal.


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Have you explored tankless water heaters? Seems like for a single dude, they would be even more ideal.
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And they have gotten way more competitive on price recently too. Even home depot locally have some very well priced ones in store to check out.
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Here you go: https://myheatworks.com/pages/model-3-specs
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November 6, 2018, 10:05 AM

I did think tankless, but I heard so many different reviews.
The contractor who put in my new electric WH in Va. said when they break its hard to get someone to repair it. He said do you call an electrician? or a plumber?

I wanted tankless since they first came out. Also..Id probably have to put in a house filter system since DC water calcification is horrible. It might clog up the inside of smaller water pipes. I have to replace faucets about every 5-7 years on average. In Va. the water is different...hardly any calcification, no taste like DC and no smell of chemicals.
Every single faucet here is the original 1985. But it also do not get as much use.

Sigh...too many options lol.
Tankless would be on the top of my list, but scared lol.


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November 6, 2018, 10:09 AM

I like the tank cover Idea. I do not use allot of water at all. At most 1 shower a day, dish washer ran every 2 weeks, hot tub bath like 2 times a month at most. I never hand wash dishes. Other than that typical water for daily morning teeth brushing, face washing, etc.

In Va it do not matter. We are billed bi monthly and allowed 6,000 gallons over that time period. With GF her daughter and me in a 2 month period we use 200 gallons.


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November 6, 2018, 11:33 AM

Bear in mind tankless water heaters require yearly maintenance is this a MUST. You have to calcify / de-scale them with a flush solution. It's you're not someone who likes to dedicated two or three weekends a year to overall house maintenance, probably not the best option.



Efficiency is a push. Both tanks are very thermal efficient.



My personal preference for hot water is electric. I look at the issue like this: Gas is one price all times of the day. Electricity drops its rates in off-peak hours, which is typically when I run my dishwasher, do my laundry, and take my showers (I shower and shave before bed instead of in the morning).



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November 6, 2018, 05:03 PM

Definitely not saying you should base your decision on this but when the power goes out, it's nice to be able to still take a hot shower too. You're like me, I barely use any water and since I work from home, I sometimes only shower 3-4 times a week. Don't tell anyone.


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lol well......
to be honest... I might hit the shower at most 5 days in a week...but average is about 3 days in a 7 day week...unless I am cycling or other shit.


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November 6, 2018, 11:56 PM

I've been considering gas tankless system to replace the current tank. I can't even fill my soaker tub all the way with the current tank, and I don't like the idea of so much energy being used to keep a large volume continuously at temp.
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I've been considering gas tankless system to replace the current tank. I can't even fill my soaker tub all the way with the current tank, and I don't like the idea of so much energy being used to keep a large volume continuously at temp.
I've got one in a condo I just picked up that will be a rental property. I'm looking forward to seeing how it performs and if it does well, I might consider getting one for my house. I agree, I don't like that idea either.


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