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Ethanol: Carbs and 2 stoke vehicles, and equiptment
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Ethanol: Carbs and 2 stoke vehicles, and equiptment - January 26, 2016, 10:42 AM

I was told the past week while winterizing that I should use
Sta-bil (MARINE) specifically in all my 2 stroke and carb equipment because of the ethanol in gas.

They (neighbors) said I should run it all the time in my Jet ski (2 stroke), chain saw, and other lawn equipment.

I guess my question is this....what is Ethanol doing to carbed vehicles? I assume it makes the carbs harder to start. That is how the conversation started. How i my Jet skis let me down.

In fuel injected vehicles is it good to run some kind of gas additive to help it out also? or Ethanol is fine in FI vehicles.

When did Ethanol get introduced in gas? lol for some reason I assumed it was always there lol.




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I use stabil in everything just the normal red stuff, only my leaf blower is two stroke and no issues in 8 years.


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I've heard the same thing with 2 stroke engines and ethanol. Due to that as mentioned in the snow blower thread by someone else I use True Fuel in my snow blower when I think the season is over. It runs better, less smoke, and it's supposed to help limit deposits in the carbs that cause performance issues. The stuff is expensive but it's worked like a champ for me.


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Pri G I've found to be the best....better than stabil or startron
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I use Sunoco 100 race fuel in my lawn equipment near the end of the season and never had a problem in the spring.Even in my race bikes I leave it in there with no problem.I've never winterized anything before.
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If you look around, there are a handful of Ethanol free stations where you can get that type of gas for your small engine stuff.

I have used the Startron as well and that works well.

Haven't tried the Pri G stuff.
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Ethanol is hydroscopic, it pulls water from the air, it can also deteriorate gaskets and gums up carbs. Boaters hate the ethanol mandates and have been going through fuel filters much faster than before. Ethanol started back in 2000.


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If you look around, there are a handful of Ethanol free stations where you can get that type of gas for your small engine stuff.
Where?

Pure-Gas.org : Map of Ethanol-Free Gas Stations in the U.S. and Canada

The airport near Clinton is very limited hours. The next closest to me is Marshall, VA. So about 2 hours of driving in non-rush hour + about 3 gallons of diesel for the SUV. If I had more free time on the weekends it might be worth it, but it is too easy to point and click and have a 6 pack of TruFuel at my door in 2 days.

To get Premium non-ethanol stuff for the track bike, I have no idea how far I would have go. I just add Marine grade Stabil for that and so far so good.


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If you want ethanol free, make a trip to the Liberty in Charles Town the next time you go to Summit Pt. Liberty in Winchester has it too.


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Ethanol is hydroscopic, it pulls water from the air, it can also deteriorate gaskets and gums up carbs. Boaters hate the ethanol mandates and have been going through fuel filters much faster than before. Ethanol started back in 2000.
Ah ok...so using the marine grade stabilizer fix the ethanol problem?

I have four 2 stroke jet skis,
4 law mowers that I think are 4 strokes...cant remember
1 weed whacker that is 4 stroke
1 chain saw that is 2 stroke

I would need this shit by the gallons.


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Ah ok...so using the marine grade stabilizer fix the ethanol problem?

I have four 2 stroke jet skis,
4 law mowers that I think are 4 strokes...cant remember
1 weed whacker that is 4 stroke
1 chain saw that is 2 stroke

I would need this shit by the gallons.
It's not that bad. 1 oz. treats about 2.5 gallons.
Yes, your lawn mowers are 4 stroke.

The biggest think to remember here is to be proactive. A little bit of Sta-Bil is a lot better than cleaning carbs when you realize it's too late.

I guess you could say that an "Ounce of prevention is worth a CARB of regret"


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*hygroscopic
Knew I spelled it wrong, just hoping to get away with it and too lazy to google it!


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January 26, 2016, 11:16 PM

Thanks for this info. Just bought my first 2 stroke dirt bike a week ago, and was literally wondering the exact same thing.

I also dont really winterize my bikes, just put Stabil in there and make sure to ride them once ever 2 to 3 weeks or so.
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A simple fix to some of the carb problems on your lawn mowers is to place a manual shutoff valve on the gas line just in front of the carb. When done using it...turn the valve to shut and let the motor die on its own. No fuel left in the carb at that point.

Treat the gas with whatever fuel stabilizer you have and you shouldn't have any problems Von.

This will treat 512 gallons lol....doubt you will use that much

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