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Thumbs down FFX County Riders... - September 21, 2006, 02:57 AM

Anybody notice alot more cops posted out taking radar and all there stupid shit they do? Its like every where i look i see a cop.... But i donno... Just seeing if anyone knew of the reasoning behind more of em out...
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Because it's their job??


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Because it's their job??
There is more to a cop job then to hand out tickets to people!
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There is more to a cop job then to hand out tickets to people!

Yes to DETER the crime it before hit happens. Statisticly proven that if the bad guys SEE more cops out and about, they are less likely to cause major crime.

FYI, that is one of the MAIN purposes of my unit.


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September 21, 2006, 01:34 PM

Human ingenuity has taught us that law enforcement, for the most part, keeps the honest honest and does very little to effect a bad guys intentions, only his way of doing it.

Example:
Guy wants to rob house, guy see's cop roll through neighborhood periodically, guy robs house at night instead of day in order to mask his presence from the cop, meanwhile cop was busy harrassing some guy without a current county sticker.


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negative ben... As i said, i dont have the stats with me. It has been a decreasing crime trend in areas that had high stats. While at the same time, crime did not increase elsewhere. Time did not matter...


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In comparison with the resident police force in the early 1990's the crime trend has increased exponentially WITH the combatative police force numbers. There are several variables that lead to this, and though you may see that high police presence does help to lower crime trends in a given area, you will also notice that the crime does not disappear, but merely move elsewhere.

DC has one of the highest police/per capita in the nation, as well as a leading national crime rate. These would suggest that police presence doesn't deter anthing, only displace it.

EDIT: To clarify, crime goes down in a given area (DC, Boston, NY) but national crime does not, and in fact increases over the years.


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you are assuming that more police mean more police patrolling. Which is not necessarily the case.

Move elsewhere, i can concede that it may move to another county. But if it moved elsewhere in the county where the stats keep track it would be reflective as such.

What stats are you referring to regarding since the 90's? I can only speak to the ones ive seen. Which i am having a hard time finding at this moment. But im not lying.. i swear.

If you are referrring to the FBI national stats which gather the stats tracked by each agency, I saw them going down for FFX as well. Or were you speaking DC metro area? if so, havnt paid attention enough to disagree or agree..


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some trends to start with:

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/...tats/page3.pdf

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/...s/page6_04.pdf

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/...ationstats.pdf


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Police Legitimacy. Given the historical roots of community policing, perhaps the most theoretically compelling version of its crime prevention hypothesis addresses police legitimacy, or public confidence in the police as fair and equitable (Eck and Rosenbaum, 1994). Recent theoretical and basic research work in "procedural justice" (Tyler, 1990) provides a more scientifically elaborate version of this hypothesis than its proponents in the 1960s intended. The claim is not just that police must be viewed as legitimate in order to win public cooperation with law enforcement. The claim is that a legitimate police institution fosters more widespread obedience of the law itself. Gorer (1955: 296) even attributes the low levels of violent crime in England to the example of law-abiding masculinity set by 19th Century police, a role model that became incorporated into the "English character." There is even evidence that the police themselves become less likely to obey the law after they have become disillusioned with its apparent lack of procedural justice (Sherman, 1974).


One of the most striking recent findings is the extent to which the police themselves create a risk factor for crime simply by using bad manners. Modest but consistent scientific evidence supports the hypothesis that the less respectful police are towards suspects and citizens generally, the less people will comply with the law. Changing police "style" may thus be as important as focusing police "substance."
Studies show that good police work more toward crime prevention than numbers.

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One common strategy for increasing the prevention efforts of police is to put more police on the streets. Sherman (1995), however, points out, “there is growing evidence that the number of police on the streets is far less important than the tasks that police perform.” Most studies on the effects of the number of police show that crime rates actually increase with an increase in the number of police. In fact, a recent review of 36 correlational studies found little evidence that more police results in reduced crime (Marvell and Moody, 1996). Instead, current research suggests that a police presence or visibility can affect the crime rate in specific places at specific times, depending on what actions the police are taking. In fact, Sherman concludes that if the police attack the risk factors for crime—such as guns on the street and “hot spot” street corners—then they could make a substantial difference (Sherman, 1995).


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Obviously these studies beg the question I have asked many times... why are the cops eyeballing us at te starbucks thursday night instead of going behind my house to the nieghborhood FULL of crime???


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We are taking advantage of the free coffee and because the gayness ora you present to everyone deems that if we add you to the jail population the overall testosterone levels will go down.


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