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Goodbye!! - September 27, 2009, 04:08 PM

To the redskins.....ha ha ha......I actually feel bad for the fans....but fack that teams owners and operators! You guys have the talent but damn if you have the coaching!










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It's not too late. There's still time for you to get on the bandwagon. Do it now, while the season's early this way you don't look too bad later on during the year when they fire Zorn.




Or I'll even let you stay close to home. Their offense and defense is looking damn good.

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September 27, 2009, 04:28 PM

Redskins suck! Time to fire the ENTIRE coaching staff and get new management in the office.

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Congrats to Detroit for finally stopping their losing streak.


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September 27, 2009, 04:29 PM

I wouldn't have said fire Zorn until I saw him ok a hook and ladder from 40 yards out, because he KNOWS Campbell couldn't make that play...

I've been saying this for over two and a half years... apparently Zorn is a total idiot... there was some debate.

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Same problem as Brunell... they held on to someone who couldn't make the plays. There is no pressure to produce, there's no one after your job if you're a Skins QB.


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September 27, 2009, 04:37 PM

65 yards on the ground, and 21 of that was a lucky scramble by JC. Zorn needs to go


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Zorn needs to go because he can't let go of an ineffective QB.


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Player decisions have never been his job. That always seems to go back to Snyder.


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Zorn has been the main champion of Jason Campbell...


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Cambell has somehow survived 4 years there. It isn't just Zorn.


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I don't think JC is the main problem. His QB ranking is like 89 or so and has the same pass% as Peyton Manning. He is ranked either 14th or 15th in the league and that is all while standing behind an ineffective O line. He is not west coast style, which is to say that he has a big throw, takes a long time to wind up, and doesn't throw well on the run. He is accurate if he has a chance to wind up and throw and has his feet planted. Basically the opposite of of Zornball.

Oh and don't ask me to cite the info above. I am going off of memory from a few stats and reports I read a few days ago.


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Stats don't reflect reality often. On paper he seems to be competent, in reality he throws poorly and inaccurately, cant move in the pocket, has some exceptional receivers like Kelly, Cooley, and Moss who carry him.

Best example of his ineffectiveness is redzone failure, please see last weeks game... or our game last year against the Steelers. When it comes to threading a ball or applying finesse for an over-shoulder drop into the endzone corner, he simply isn't there. I agree with O-line failure. It's clear that he doesn't have the time to set up... but frankly his inability to be mobile, serious disadvantage on the run, and pressure from a Dline make for an absolute mess.... They didn't even trust him to send a ball downfield with 40 yards and 8 seconds on the clock.

A quarterback runs the Oline, runs the clock, has to read a defensive line to accommodate the defensive formation to the play call... He looks like a deer in the headlights. He doesn't have the maturity, or presence of pocket that any of the great quarterbacks exhibit. He is not our franchise solution. We have a lot of talent... and that talent manages to keep us barely competitive while never being successful as a team. I blame Dan Snyder for not truly understanding that a group of ok players who play well together will always be far more effective than a group of highly payed play makers who can't move in sych... Also I feel that with Brunell they had leadership in the pocket, but diminished natural skill... with Campbell they have some natural skill, but absolutely no leadership in the pocket.


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Wow. The Redskins are the worst I have seen them in years.

Campbell is done. If he is not replaced I am sure you will see a coaching change very soon. This place seems to breed bad coaching. Campbell needs to be replaced immediately or Jim Zorn needs to go, along with Dan Snyder.

Terrible play calling. Do they have more than 3 run plays? DId they forget their best player Cooley was playing today?

The Cincy -Pittsburgh game had a great ending. Tough loss for the Steelers.

Atlanta got humbled today.

Jets look great with the Rookie QB Sanchez leading them. The coach Rex Ryan is doing a great job for them.

Browns are terrible and their QB situation is even more screwed up.

Giants are steamrolling even without Plax who everyone says was the team. They are an all around good team. They can pass, run , and defend very well. Not one thing really stands out, they are just able to execute.


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I don't think JC is the main problem. His QB ranking is like 89 or so and has the same pass% as Peyton Manning. He is ranked either 14th or 15th in the league and that is all while standing behind an ineffective O line. He is not west coast style, which is to say that he has a big throw, takes a long time to wind up, and doesn't throw well on the run. He is accurate if he has a chance to wind up and throw and has his feet planted. Basically the opposite of of Zornball.

Oh and don't ask me to cite the info above. I am going off of memory from a few stats and reports I read a few days ago.
Campbell is terrible. His passer rating is so high, because he gets a prevent defense at the end of the game and it ups his stats. THis team needs a leader and a decision maker, something Campbell is not.


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I vote for Heist to coach or QB for the Redskins. His senseless post and delusional state fits the recent coaches and QB's the Redskins have had.


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I don't think JC is the main problem. His QB ranking is like 89 or so and has the same pass% as Peyton Manning. He is ranked either 14th or 15th in the league and that is all while standing behind an ineffective O line. He is not west coast style, which is to say that he has a big throw, takes a long time to wind up, and doesn't throw well on the run. He is accurate if he has a chance to wind up and throw and has his feet planted. Basically the opposite of of Zornball.

Oh and don't ask me to cite the info above. I am going off of memory from a few stats and reports I read a few days ago.
im sure kolb, cassel, or even sanchez doesnt have those great stats but they are still better than JC.

after TO left, mcnabb still did good and made okay WR's look good.
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