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Gun people need some input. Fnp-9 or Fnp-.40
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Gun people need some input. Fnp-9 or Fnp-.40 - January 26, 2010, 02:29 PM

Alright so going to buy first handgun fairly soon. Have been shooting shotguns and rifles for about 10 years now. Been a range only guy. Don't have the guts to kill animals unless its may ass or theirs.

Pistol will be used as range gun until extremely comfortable and then hopefully get a ccw license and carry the weapon.

So thoughts on this 40 vs 9.

Here is a youtube clip on the 9.

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9mm ammo is cheaper and you get more rounds per mag....just get some good hydroshock ammo for carry


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The nine will be cheaper to shoot and easier to learn with, but its really not much more for .40's. I would probably get the nine.
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i've been reading numerous debates that have scientific evidence proving that 9mm is not enough to bring down zombies

for this very reason i went with .40


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True. I have a 45 at home, and have been using it at the range for quite some time. Im in the market for a 9. Keeping the 45, just want a 9 to bring down the cost of going to the range. Plus its a hell of a lot easier to find 9 ammo. Ive started buying out Walmart when they have 45 cause its such a PITA to get it sometimes.

40 is going to be a better defensive round. 9 is cheaper.


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I'm going to come off as a little biased here - but frankly, I like shooting both and don't have a preference. I just happen to have a bit more time in the hand with 9's than I do 40's.

A 9mm is:

- Easier and more fun to shoot. Very manageable muzzle flip and recoil, even when shooting one handed.
- More ammo per mag.
- More ammo per $1 spent. (I shoot cheap CCI Blazer when target shooting and get often get them for <$11 a box)

Contrary to popular thought, there's no conventional handgun caliber that's going to take an assailant off his/her feet like in the movies. It doesn't matter the caliber. If you wing someone with a .45, .40, .38, or . 22 - you winged them; they're going to keep coming.
(when you start talking .357 Mag, .44 Mag, .50 AE - ok )

And if you're dumping 3-4 shots in someone and they're still coming, I recommend you go to the range and practice the Mozambique Drill with a box of ammo. Executed correctly, 2 shots will STOP the threat and give you time to assess the situation the 3rd will then END the threat permanently.

A 9mm will stop a threat provided it's loaded with the correct ammo. (Speer Gold Dot, Ranger SXT (cum Black Talon), and you can shoot worth a shit. Load some +P or (+P+ ammo) in it (provided your gun specifies that it can handle a hotter load) and you have the same energy in some cases as a .45

Here's a great site detailing expansion of various 9mm ammo. http://frag.110mb.com/

Ranger SXT (Black Talon) after expansion





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.40 Cal is nothing but a cut and necked down 10mm (which is the best offensive handgun round IMHO - flatter, faster trajectory than the loved .45 with just about the same energy transfer. Too bad it's not very popular due to manufacturer support cost & rarity).

- Bullet travels faster and has more impact power than a 9mm
- The kick is harder and muzzle flip is greater (sometimes more than a .45!)
- Less ammo per mag
- Less ammo per $1 (Same CCI Blazer target stuff cost me $16 a box)


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Gun wise, I've never shot a FNP, but I've heard nice things about them. Supposed to be like a Sig Sauer but for $100-$150 less.

Before you go in that direction though, have you checked out:
(1) Smith & Wesson M&P 9. This gun is getting very good reviews.

(2) Jericho 941. This is what the Isreali military uses. It comes in both 9mm and .40, comes in both an all steel and polymer version. Battle honed, tested, tried, and true.
Will probably be the next handgun I buy unless I can come across a good deal on a H&K Mark 23 (anyone?)



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9mm, for the cheaper ammo. Then get a .40. And then, maybe a .45. And then, go the other way and get a .380. And then, go for a .357, cuz revolvers are different...

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Dan, that's exactly what I was thinking!
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Same with the guns and ammo... your probably not going to be in a fire-fight any time soon... shoot what you like, what feels comfortable, what you can afford.
That being said... .40 or 357sig. If you plan to carry.
Don't be fooled by low cost of 9mm or the ability to carry a couple
extra rounds.
9mm = good for target... not a stopper.


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actually, if you want a really cheap gun for the range, get a .22. I got my eye on a Browning.
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9mm, for the cheaper ammo. Then get a .40. And then, maybe a .45. And then, go the other way and get a .380. And then, go for a .357, cuz revolvers are different...

It never ends!
I've never been more accurate with a handgun than I was with a .38 revolver.

Revolvers are so smooth and easy.



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January 26, 2010, 04:29 PM

I always had a .40 and loved it. The kick is definitely just as bad as a .45. Honestly I would suggest a .45 if you're willing to spend a little more on the ammo. I have the M&P .45 right now and love it. I comes with an extended clip as well so that I could do 14+1 which should be more than enough for an emergency situation. It has very little recoil for me and has been extremely accurate so far. Also, the maintenance of it is very basic and easy. If you don't feel comfortable with a .45 then try out the M&P in 9mm.


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