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Habor Freight Power Tools - Yes/No? - December 6, 2011, 07:45 PM

So it seems in rather rapid succession all my power tools are starting to peter out. Granted most are 12+ years old and weren't Mikita / DeWalt quality to begin with - but then again, I don't do enough work to really justify spending Mikita / Dewalt money.

I know I'm not going down the Crap and Decker route. Craftsmen? Bosch?

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Keep your eye out for Xmas sales.... saw a badass Dewalt with 2 batts and a charger for 99 bucks. Cant beat that.


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I have a harbor freight special for an impact driver. I did a quick bit of research and figured out that it was the same one being sold by Sears. Only without the craftsman badge. For 1/3rd the price. 15 years later it's still going strong.

Some of the stuff is great. Some of it is mediocre. Just be careful.

That being said, I'm looking at making another large buy of basic tools. (replacing lost, damaged, etc)


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I'm a Craftsman guy only because that is what my dad used when I was growing up. I only get certain things from Harbor Freight and power tools would NOT be one of them. Normally I pick up some sockets, wrenches, a hammer, razor blades, etc. Never a ratchet or anything that I have to plug in. I have an aluminum jack that is good but the car is never up without a jackstand, just in case. Use your best judgement when it comes to their stuff.


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Keep your eye out for Xmas sales.... saw a badass Dewalt with 2 batts and a charger for 99 bucks. Cant beat that.
Cool. If you remember where you saw it, let me know.

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I have a harbor freight special for an impact driver. I did a quick bit of research and figured out that it was the same one being sold by Sears. Only without the craftsman badge. For 1/3rd the price. 15 years later it's still going strong.

Some of the stuff is great. Some of it is mediocre. Just be careful.

That being said, I'm looking at making another large buy of basic tools. (replacing lost, damaged, etc)
Same deal with me, I'm replacing a bunch of lost, damaged, wearing out...
I had the feeling that there is some large contract manufacturer in Asia cranking this stuff out and only changing the housing color and slapping on a label per the buyer's spec.



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Cool. If you remember where you saw it, let me know.
It was in the Lowes and Home Depot Sunday sale papers around Thanksgiving but wasnt black friday only stuff.


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I'm a Craftsman guy only because that is what my dad used when I was growing up. I only get certain things from Harbor Freight and power tools would NOT be one of them. Normally I pick up some sockets, wrenches, a hammer, razor blades, etc. Never a ratchet or anything that I have to plug in. I have an aluminum jack that is good but the car is never up without a jackstand, just in case. Use your best judgement when it comes to their stuff.
This. You're better off going with a B&D than their crap Chicago Electric line. If you only plan on using it a couple times, they're fine, but they're cheap for a reason. Expect accuracy quality to take a serious hit.

What are you looking for? I have some quality power tools that I would consider parting with. All DeWalt, Porter-Cable, or Milwaukee.


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Wait for sales on stuff from places like Sears

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for power tools.. for anything simple, HF stuff is ok.

For example, i'd never buy a torque wrench from there


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Buy "refurbished" DeWalt. But be sure you are buying them from legitimate service center. A very significant discount for a commercial grade power tools can be gotten. I bought an 18V drill, and a dual bevel chop saw for a significant discount from I forgot who... when I gutted the first floor here at home 2 or 3 yrs ago.

For hand tools... go to tractor shows/flea markets and buy used Snap-on, Matco, Mac (an good older craftsman stuff) etc for pennies on the dollar cost.

HF... I mean that's really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Sears craftsman... not too much above horror fright tools. Consumer grade tools are such a disappointment when you get going on a project. Sears tool quality has gotten so bad over the years I don't even shop there anymore.
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I'm a Craftsman guy only because that is what my dad used when I was growing up.
Over the last 10-20 yrs Craftsman has really gotten bad. Their stuff used to be very good. Once everything was sourced from china the quality really took a hit.

I think most of their mechanics hand tools are still pretty pretty good for guys like us. But when you can buy used Snap-on, Mac, Matco, or older GOOD craftsman, for less than the price of current new Craftsman, its a no-brainer.

I'm 2X the age of most of you and its very disheartening to remember what you used to be able to get at the Sears store, or the local hardware store, at 4pm on a Sunday aft when you were struggling to get that job done, versus what you have to buy now at HD or Lowes, or Sears.

The big box stores forced price restraints on their suppliers, and consequenty quality restraints were traded in on that negotiation.
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I know I'm not going down the Crap and Decker route. Craftsmen? Bosch?
You do realize that DeWalt and Porter Cable are Black & Decker right?

for minimal use Black & Decker is fine

personally I go with Makita if I find the right deal:

these babies for $155 for example:

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Iono if this is off topic but Sears has had awesome sales on all kinds of shit for this holiday season. keep checkin in on their ads


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You do realize that DeWalt and Porter Cable are Black & Decker right?

Yes and no. DeWalt and Porter-Cable brands fall under the Black & Decker Corporation but not the Black & Decker brand. They use higher quality materials and are designed to be more rugged and last longer. B&D brand tools are not. B&D Corporation also owns Kwisket and Baldwin security companies, are you going to tell me that they're the same quality also?


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Yes and no. DeWalt and Porter-Cable brands fall under the Black & Decker Corporation but not the Black & Decker brand. They use higher quality materials and are designed to be more rugged and last longer. B&D brand tools are not. B&D Corporation also owns Kwisket and Baldwin security companies, are you going to tell me that they're the same quality also?
I'm not seeing the part where I stated they were the same quality; ipso facto I'll defer on telling you about Kwikset and Baldwin...

I can say that both B&D and DeWalt batteries crap out and are hellaspensive to replace - hence my penchant for Makita


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I'm not seeing the part where I stated they were the same quality; ipso facto I'll defer on telling you about Kwikset and Baldwin...

I can say that both B&D and DeWalt batteries crap out and are hellaspensive to replace - hence my penchant for Makita
Agreed, battery prices are outta control. That's why it's usually a better idea just to get a whole new tool.


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