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Mathmatical/Architect question!!! HELP! - October 24, 2007, 08:48 AM

This is why I'm an artist and not a math/science person...

okay without getting too specific heres what I need:

I was given an existing building and its dimensions. They want me to drop in other buildings along side the existing build in a rough line drawing but TO SCALE.

Where flashbacks of a failing grade in my math finals come back:

They gave my the dimensions of the MAIN building: 10200 sq meters (85mx120m)
But they only gave me the square meters of the other buildings and no dimensions ( e.g. Length meters x Width meters). I need a smart person like yourself to help me turn these other buildings into rectangles TO SCALE.

Here are the other buildings (must be in meters):
Building A - 2250.75 sq meters
Building B - 611.54 sq meters
Building C - 587.14 sq meters
Building D - 389.22 sq meters
Building E - 360.12 sq meters
Building F - 770.14 sq meters

how many meters in 100 yards?..in a quarter mile?

conversions are the bane of my high school career....grrrr...

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October 24, 2007, 08:53 AM

Google calculator is your friend for conversions.

Whoever gave you those dimensions need to provide you with more information. You need length/width, unless you are assuming the buildings are square.

A could be 47.5m x 47.m or it could be 60m x 37.5m or any combination that produces 2250.


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Darwin is correct. Without the ratio of length to width, you would have to go under the assumption that they are somewhat sqaure and with the information that you are implying is that they aren't.


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Okay.. Let's assume that they are just gonna be a squares.



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If the main building is 85x120, how can you assume the other buildings will be square? Ask them for more info! haha


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So what do you need to know? Take the square root of each # and scale it down. What is your drawing in, inches?

Example.

Building A - 2250.75 sq meters
square root = 47.44m
go to google, type this "47.44m in inches", answer:
47.44 meters = 1867.71654 inches

Scale? Say its 1/100, your building is 18.67inches x 18.67inches


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So what do you need to know? Take the square root of each # and scale it down. What is your drawing in, inches?

Example.

Building A - 2250.75 sq meters
square root = 47.44m
go to google, type this "47.44m in inches", answer:
47.44 meters = 1867.71654 inches

Scale? Say its 1/100, your building is 18.67inches x 18.67inches
well, wether my docment is in iches or not, the other buildings just have to be properly proportioned in relation to the MAIN building. so meters/inches...no matter.

Thanks!

I am trying to make this as uncomplicated as possible for myself. This is a just a request from a non-architect person but they do want see things in scale in relation to an existing building. So they didn't specify squares or rectangles. I'm going to give them squares... If they dont like it they can hire an architect.



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1 inch = 2.54 cm
1 foot = 12 inches, so 12 inches x 2.54 cm = 30.48 cm/foot
1 yard = 3 feet, so 3 feet x 30.48 cm/foot = 91.44 cm
(100 cm = 100 m)
1 yard = 0.9144 m, or 1 m = 1.0936 yard (1/0.9144)

BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO CONVERT YOUR UNITS. Just work in cm (1 m = 100 cm) or mm (1 m = 1000 mm) on paper to represent m in full scale. You may find the square roots of the square-meter dimensions and then reduce your scale for the drawing, or you may reduce your scale and then take the square roots, it doesn't matter which order. Your final number will be the length (or width) of your square.

I noticed they gave you no vertical dimensions so you're working in only 2 dimensions (like a floor plan). All you have to do is scale your "unknown" squares by the same factor, so 0.01 like above (1/100), and then draw a bunch of scares around the main squares. You derive your length and width by taking the square root of the sq m dimensions you were provided with, just as someone already indicated above.

I have a feeling that the blockhead (pun intended) that gave you this project is expecting a lot more from you but doesn't know what information to give you so that you can produce more than scaled squares.


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Okay, if the new buildings are the same proportions as the original building, their dimensions are:
A 39.93 x 56.37
B 20.81 x 29.38
C 20.39 28.79
D 16.60 x 23.44
E 15.97 x 22.55
F 23.36 x 32.97

if they are square, then they are (length of any of the sides)
A 47.44
B 24.73
C 24.23
D 19.72
E 18.98
F 27.75

there are 91.3 meters in 100yds
and 401.8 meters in 1/4 mile

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Originally Posted by birdman
Okay, if the new buildings are the same proportions as the original building, their dimensions are:
A 39.93 x 56.37
B 20.81 x 29.38
C 20.39 28.79
D 16.60 x 23.44
E 15.97 x 22.55
F 23.36 x 32.97

if they are square, then they are (length of any of the sides)
A 47.44
B 24.73
C 24.23
D 19.72
E 18.98
F 27.75

there are 91.3 meters in 100yds
and 401.8 meters in 1/4 mile

hope that helps
+1 if they gave the the total "square" area then just take the square root to figure out the dimensions

Enter the figure in your calculator program then click the (x^y) function and enter .5

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THANKS FOR EVERYONES' INPUT!

yeah, it is floorplan-like (that's the word I was looking for!!!).... So no vertical dimension ; just 2-D..



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If the main building is 85x120, how can you assume the other buildings will be square? ...........
seriously, this is probably the most intelligent thing I have heard someone say on this board ever


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