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Michigan Police Stealing Cellphone Data With Extraction Devices - April 22, 2011, 10:13 AM

I wonder how long this becomes part of a normal traffic stop and law that law officials may have access to verify that you were using your phone while driving.
Or, "May I see the GPS data from your phone, sir?" You have the right to refuse ... of course that's an automatic 3 months license suspension.

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ACLU: Michigan cops stealing drivers' phone data

by Matt Hickey



This machine can let police see all of your photos. Even that one.


The Michigan State Police have started using handheld machines called "extraction devices" to download personal information from motorists they pull over, even if they're not suspected of any crime. Naturally, the ACLU has a problem with this.


The devices, sold by a company called Cellebrite, can download text messages, photos, video, and even GPS data from most brands of cell phones. The handheld machines have various interfaces to work with different models and can even bypass security passwords and access some information.


The problem as the ACLU sees it, is that accessing a citizen's private phone information when there's no probable cause creates a violation of the Constitution's 4th Amendment, which protects us against unreasonable searches and seizures.

To that end, it's petitioning the MSP to turn over information about its use of the devices under the Freedom of Information Act. The MSP said it's happy to comply, that is, if the ACLU provides them with a processing fee in excess of $500,000. That's more than $100,000 for each of the five devices the MSP says it has in use.


The ACLU, for its part, says that the fee is odious, and that a public policing agency has a duty to its citizens to be open. "This should be something that they are handing over freely, and that they should be more than happy to share with the public--the routines and the guidelines that they follow," Mark Fancher, an attorney for the ACLU, told Detroit's WDIV.


As of yet there's no suit, but one is likely if the MSP sticks to its proverbial guns and refuses to hand over information about how it's using the cell phone snooping devices, without being first paid off. If litigation does come, the outcome may set a precedent that would have far-reaching effects, and might make a device that most of us carry a pocket battleground in the war of digital privacy.




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I hope the ACLU sues the shit out of them.
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This is the same Michigan where the governor is imposing "financial martial law"...sending "emergency managers" that nullify elected county officials authority....fascism has arrived in Murrica
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is this a true story?
i cant believe this

The Michigan State Police have started using handheld machines called "extraction devices" to download personal information from motorists they pull over, even if they're not suspected of any crime
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I don't have anything to hide but the moment the officer asked to see my cell phone I would just smash the shit out of it and tell him "it's broken"
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I am feeling better and better about my paranoia over iPhones and the like, given the amount of data these things accumulate. Been thinking of reverting to a regular old pos cell phone.


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is this a true story?
i cant believe this

The Michigan State Police have started using handheld machines called "extraction devices" to download personal information from motorists they pull over, even if they're not suspected of any crime
Yes, it is true.



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Yes, it is true.
thats not true


i figured it was more to this story but it seems so unbelievable

according to the michigan state police, they said they only extract the data with a search warrant, or if they ask to search and some fool agrees and gives consent



far cry from being the same as taking ur phone data without probable cause or suspected of a crime (like how could they get a search warrant if true?)

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direct quote made by state police a couple days after the above story was published:

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"The MSP only uses the DEDs if a search warrant is obtained or if the person possessing the mobile device gives consent," it said in a statement. "The DEDs are not being used to extract citizens' personal information during routine traffic stops."
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I don't have anything to hide but the moment the officer asked to see my cell phone I would just smash the shit out of it and tell him "it's broken"

I might not smash my phone but I would destroy the conection port. Thats some str8 up bull.....I guess Big Brother is trying to hit the gym and get swoll


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4th amendment.
Shat on.



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don't worry, when the democrats control both houses, and the white house , the patriot act and all of bushes evil evil freedom stealing legislation ,will be repealed . also, guantanamo bay will be closed ,and there will be no more it illegal wire taps of u s citizens .

wait, what ? you mean to tell me that time has already come and gone and nothing has changed ? preposterous


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