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N.Y.P.D. bills mom for dent in car that killed son - October 5, 2012, 07:01 PM

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One of the NYPD cops who shot an innocent Sean Bell to death sued his estate for damages, pain and suffering he claimed he received after Sean Bell ran over his foot - while trying to get away - from being shot at by cops.



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Am I the only one who doesn't see a problem with this?

So, taxpayers who obey the law should have to pay for damages caused by a criminal?

Other than the fact that I don't think family members are liable for another family member's damages... unless they are a minor?... Unless they are going after some of the life insurance (if they had any), which is understandable.


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Am I the only one who doesn't see a problem with this?

So, taxpayers who obey the law should have to pay for damages caused by a criminal?

Other than the fact that I don't think family members are liable for another family member's damages... unless they are a minor?... Unless they are going after some of the life insurance (if they had any), which is understandable.
Its still under investigation, sorry but there is no excuse for running down someone (criminal) for stealing bricks and shit. This is typical NYC ridiculousness.
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Am I the only one who doesn't see a problem with this?

So, taxpayers who obey the law should have to pay for damages caused by a criminal?

Other than the fact that I don't think family members are liable for another family member's damages... unless they are a minor?... Unless they are going after some of the life insurance (if they had any), which is understandable.
Regularly I would agree with you but they tax people so much in NYC that this should be included.


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Am I the only one who doesn't see a problem with this?

So, taxpayers who obey the law should have to pay for damages caused by a criminal?

Other than the fact that I don't think family members are liable for another family member's damages... unless they are a minor?... Unless they are going after some of the life insurance (if they had any), which is understandable.
I do not necessarily disagree in principle Clemson, but to hand the family members a bill after they killed their son, who committed a misdemeanor offense, is tactless.

What next, should the NYPD shoot a criminal to death they in turn hand the surviving family members an invoice for the cost of the ammunition?



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Am I the only one who doesn't see a problem with this?

So, taxpayers who obey the law should have to pay for damages caused by a criminal?

Other than the fact that I don't think family members are liable for another family member's damages... unless they are a minor?... Unless they are going after some of the life insurance (if they had any), which is understandable.
I agree with Clemson.

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Its still under investigation, sorry but there is no excuse for running down someone (criminal) for stealing bricks and shit. This is typical NYC ridiculousness.
A great way to NOT get killed committing a petty crime...is to not steal shit.


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A great way to NOT get killed committing a petty crime...is to not steal shit.
So he deserved to die? I understand his petty theft to be considered a misdemeanor. So if were committing a different misdemeanor (intentionally or not) such as disorderly conduct, trespassing, or reckless driving (for example, excessive speeding on a motorcycle) that I might be killed by the police? That's a risk everyone should assume?


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I don't understand why the 27-year old who died, why his 45-year old mother would be responsible for any financial problems.


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We have had this discussion in a number of other threads.
My take is this...

You can not control the excessive use of force.
You can not control a police officer on a power trip with a quick trigger.
You can not stop any of these terrible an unjustified things from happening.

BUT what you can control... is NOT COMMITTING CRIMES and leaving yourself vulnerable to these terrible injustices.


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In essence this would be like someone grabbing my watch and me beating them to death, then suing their family cause I broke my hand.

While I'm all for someone getting punched for grabbing watches, I'm not so much in favor of people beating someone to death for it... especially if a very common reaction is to beat people to death. A gross over-reaction that has begun to define the protection and service of policemen. Adding the insult to the injury that resulted from over-reaction seems overboard.

I agree the tax payer shouldn't necessarily shoulder this burden. Perhaps charging the police officer for damaging a car while killing someone because he was stealing someones pebbles would train over-reacting officers that there are consequences to driving like a maniac... and I think an accidental killing by car would indicate someone was a little out of control... unless he ran him down on purpose.... then he was just a murderer.


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In essence this would be like someone grabbing my watch and me beating them to death, then suing their family cause I broke my hand.

While I'm all for someone getting punched for grabbing watches, I'm not so much in favor of people beating someone to death for it... especially if a very common reaction is to beat people to death. A gross over-reaction that has begun to define the protection and service of policemen. Adding the insult to the injury that resulted from over-reaction seems overboard.

I agree the tax payer shouldn't necessarily shoulder this burden. Perhaps charging the police officer for damaging a car while killing someone because he was stealing someones pebbles would train over-reacting officers that there are consequences to driving like a maniac... and I think an accidental killing by car would indicate someone was a little out of control... unless he ran him down on purpose.... then he was just a murderer.
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So he deserved to die? I understand his petty theft to be considered a misdemeanor. So if were committing a different misdemeanor (intentionally or not) such as disorderly conduct, trespassing, or reckless driving (for example, excessive speeding on a motorcycle) that I might be killed by the police? That's a risk everyone should assume?
Yes. If you run from the cops, you should expect that death may be a result. Does not mean the cops are going to kill you, but you are playing in traffic which is deadly enough at normal speeds. This guy was run over while running on foot. I guess he was not running through an apartment hallway. More likely he was running across, through, over, in a streeet, road, thoroughfare, highway, etc. Playing Frogger IRL may result in death.

Yes, I just dated myself.

The article said the bill was mailed to the son. So the son is being billed for the damage. Very reasonable. Unfortunately someone did not double check to see if he was alive. Whether or not the letter ACTUALLY said the family would be sued we don't know. It may well have said, "You will be liable for civil action in court yadda yadda yadda" and the family spun it as they are being sued.

I can understand them being upset over it even if it reads that way. But maybe they should not have raised a shithead for a son.
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