DCSportbikes.net  
» Help Support .NET!
DCSportbikes Premier Membership for 25$ per year. Discounts! Click here for full information.

Now available in the .NET Shop:



Get your DCSBN Gear!
» Shoutbox
Sorry, only registered users have the ability to use our real-time shoutbox to chat with other members.

Register now, it's free!
» Online Users: 818
4 members and 814 guests
2blueyam, CrazyMotorcycleGuy, GRN96WS6, tonetone
Most users ever online was 4,519, September 2, 2015 at 03:26 AM.
Go Back   DCSportbikes.net > Non-Sportbike Forums > Non-Sportbike Chat

View Poll Results: NASCAR's Quality of Racing
Boring 17 58.62%
Not Boring 8 27.59%
Indifferent. As long as it's racing, I'll watch it. 4 13.79%
Voters: 29. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
LinkBack Thread Tools
NASCAR Racing: Boring / Not Boring?
Unread
  (#1)
Your Ad Here
 
Heist's Avatar
 
Posts: 32,590
Join Date: August 25, 2008
Location: Washington, D.C.
NASCAR Racing: Boring / Not Boring? - February 20, 2011, 01:19 PM

So I decided to flip on the start of the Daytona 500 since there's no NBA action this afternoon.

I'm always perplexed about this brand of "racing." The whole circle track thing goes over my head for the most part maybe with the exception of Talladega and Indy which are exciting to me because they're more like watching an extended Vmax test than a race.

Anyway Daytona was recently repaved so I expected there would be plenty of grip and lots of interesting lines with 3-wide, 4-wide at the start and jostling.

The green flag drops and what happens; you get nothing but a series of 2-car trains pushing - not drafting, but literally pushing each other around the track because that's the only way they can pass. What a damn snooze! The people were actually cheering for this, too! You spent $100+ to see a Choo-Choo train festival?
After 4 laps I flicked to college basketball.

Worse, the rear car of a train can't see anything - not the track, not behind him and inexorably causes an accident at some point which typically takes out 10% of the field if not more.

NASCAR purposely restricts the engines proportedly to reduce the speed but then the field can't thin out so the laggards stay back and the fasters move forward, and you get a clustered bunched pack (even when they don't want to draft) which hinders any passing and only exacerbates an accident by taking out countless innocents.

Short tracks like Bristol or Martinsville are even more hilarious. It's like watching a fleet of tanks trying to run on a go-kart course. 30 second lap times. LOL! The only way to pass is to basically loosen the rear end of the guy in front of you or barge him off the line.

Where's the racing? I only get to see it when they race the road courses which is bit like watching elephants on ice skates and is always amusing.



“Any man who tries to be good all the time is bound to come to ruin among the great number who are not good. Hence a Prince who wants to keep his authority must learn how not to be good, and use that knowledge, or refrain from using it, as necessity requires”.

- Nicolo Machiavelli 1469-1527

  Facebook Page MySpace.com Page Send a message via AIM to  
Reply With Quote
Unread
  (#2)
Contributes nothing
 
yzl337's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,678
Join Date: September 30, 2002
Location: Herky Hilton
February 20, 2011, 01:23 PM

eh, racing is racing, I'm happy its on TV. I'd prefer SBK or MotoGP but NASCAR will do. Truth be told, I'm more entertained by NASCAR than I am by F1. Thank god they took away traction control, but F1 coverage leaves me cold and bored most of the time. I do like the NASCAR road races far more though.


-Craig

Confusing the issue, since before you were ugly.


Woody: i'd probably bang her if she didn't look like a man

spud: yeah, i was checking out dicks
  Send a message via AIM to Send a message via AIM to yzl337  
Reply With Quote
Unread
  (#3)
The last urrbendah
 
Stillie's Avatar
 
Posts: 18,909
Join Date: February 5, 2003
Location: Kickin' it with Stevie Janowski
February 20, 2011, 01:32 PM

Restrictor plate tracks are restricted to keep the speeds down and the cars on the track instead of the stands. They are generally snoozefests. The majority of the racing is done in the pits.

Bristol and Martinsville are fun to watch live because they beat the shit out of each other for the entire distance.

The draw is that most people can identify with driving a car and you can see most of the racing from your seat rather than on a tv screen like a roadrace.

Racing is racing and I'll watch just about anything if there is nothing on. Even if it's half naked midgets tearing around on turbocharged bar stools.


13 KTM 200 XC-W
15 KTM 350 XC-F

I might have a dirt bike problem.
  Send a message via AIM to  
Reply With Quote
Unread
  (#4)
Я - Ребенок Люциферов
 
vonstallin's Avatar
 
Posts: 15,827
Join Date: November 2, 2006
Location: Wash DC: (2 min from Adams Morgan)
February 20, 2011, 01:33 PM

Well, I come from a Car Racing back ground with Pops. so I started off life as a preteen into Drag Raing and building cars with my dad...then graduated to building my own cars and trucks. I started to dislike drag and got into road racing and while nascar is just a bunch of oval racing, it was on faithfully on the weekends so I watched...so Ive been watching for a few decades. I didnt get into Motorcycles until 2000. Started my research and trying to get one since 1998. so I as we speak im watching speed withing for nascar to come on...

I like it..mostly for the crashes...but i like anyting with an engine and ball out.

Here is the last race car I did with my pops.








The Nightmare of Summit Point
WERA Nov# 325 / CCS # 326
2016 ZX10R ABS (Street) | 2011 ZX10RR(Race)
2011 R6 (Street & Track) | 2009 WR250F
GunnRunnaz.com|GR on FaceBook | www.2666ad.com|
  Facebook Page MySpace.com Page Send a message via AIM to Send a message via MSN to vonstallin  
Reply With Quote
Unread
  (#5)
It was me.
 
Widow Maker's Avatar
 
Posts: 4,255
Join Date: March 3, 2006
February 20, 2011, 01:42 PM

Yeah left turns for two hours are not fun to watch. The only thing cool about it is that it started because of prohibition. People were building cars that could outrun the cops and then decided to start racing them.


Mohawk Ryderz Road Captain
www.MohawkRyderz.com

"We drop sukaz!"

-
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_GwgOmlI0ht.../s400/byah.jpg
  Send a message via AIM to Send a message via AIM to Widow Maker  
Reply With Quote
Unread
  (#6)
Officially Addicted to Posting
 
Posts: 6,188
Join Date: January 14, 2009
Location: On a plane
February 20, 2011, 02:30 PM

New aero package on the cars means bump drafting is the key to winning. If anyone else watched the shootout, same thing happened. NASCAR fucked up when they went to the CoT. I wish they would go back to racing Daytona actually on the beach, but I still love NASCAR.



Quote:
Originally Posted by The Evil Twin View Post
I watch a LOT of gay porn.
  Send a message via AIM to Send a message via AIM to HenryW  
Reply With Quote
Unread
  (#7)
whoa preppy......
 
Scot's Avatar
 
Posts: 7,072
Join Date: May 19, 2005
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
February 20, 2011, 02:32 PM

I'm not a fan really, but understand why it's popular. While left turns and oval tracks might suck, it's my understanding you can actually see the whole race from your seat at the track.


2018 XSR700
2013 Moto Guzzi V7 Racer
2019 Honda Monkey
2019 Z900 ABS
2019 Janus Halcyon
  MySpace.com Page Send a message via AIM to  
Reply With Quote
Unread
  (#8)
Groping is a skill...
 
turkishexpress's Avatar
 
Posts: 14,997
Join Date: May 3, 2008
Location: Chicagoland
February 20, 2011, 03:45 PM

I could see how some may like NASCAR but I can't see how so many do that it still survives at the capacity its at this day. There is very little technology and skill involved in it which you really notice the few times these cars are put on an actual course. Their lap times are bad. The way they look going around the track look ungraceful. I just don't see it personally.


2015 KTM Super Duke 1290 R
2013 Victory Vision Tour
K7 Gixxer 600 - Track Only
RnR Cycles Touched & Tuned


I grope suckaz!!! -
  Facebook Page Send a message via AIM to  
Reply With Quote
Unread
  (#9)
Contributes nothing
 
yzl337's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,678
Join Date: September 30, 2002
Location: Herky Hilton
February 20, 2011, 03:52 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by turkishexpress View Post
There is very little technology and skill involved in it which you really notice the few times these cars are put on an actual course.

lack of technology, somewhat, yes, lack of skill, complete and utter horseshit.


-Craig

Confusing the issue, since before you were ugly.


Woody: i'd probably bang her if she didn't look like a man

spud: yeah, i was checking out dicks
  Send a message via AIM to Send a message via AIM to yzl337  
Reply With Quote
Unread
  (#10)
It was me.
 
Widow Maker's Avatar
 
Posts: 4,255
Join Date: March 3, 2006
February 20, 2011, 03:57 PM

How come they all wreck when they do the few races a year which have right turns? I believe that is how Earnhardt Jr got himself all burned up?


Mohawk Ryderz Road Captain
www.MohawkRyderz.com

"We drop sukaz!"

-
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_GwgOmlI0ht.../s400/byah.jpg
  Send a message via AIM to Send a message via AIM to Widow Maker  
Reply With Quote
Unread
  (#11)
It was me.
 
Widow Maker's Avatar
 
Posts: 4,255
Join Date: March 3, 2006
February 20, 2011, 04:03 PM

Yep Infineon Raceway. Right turns = most skilled NASCAR drivers wrecking and burning.


Mohawk Ryderz Road Captain
www.MohawkRyderz.com

"We drop sukaz!"

-
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_GwgOmlI0ht.../s400/byah.jpg
  Send a message via AIM to Send a message via AIM to Widow Maker  
Reply With Quote
Unread
  (#12)
Groping is a skill...
 
turkishexpress's Avatar
 
Posts: 14,997
Join Date: May 3, 2008
Location: Chicagoland
February 20, 2011, 04:08 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by yzl337 View Post
lack of technology, somewhat, yes, lack of skill, complete and utter horseshit.
The day a NASCAR driver is recruited to drive a DTM, WRC, F1, F2, or F3 car and does it successfully I'll agree with you.


2015 KTM Super Duke 1290 R
2013 Victory Vision Tour
K7 Gixxer 600 - Track Only
RnR Cycles Touched & Tuned


I grope suckaz!!! -
  Facebook Page Send a message via AIM to  
Reply With Quote
Unread
  (#13)
It was me.
 
Widow Maker's Avatar
 
Posts: 4,255
Join Date: March 3, 2006
February 20, 2011, 04:15 PM

Section two Von


Mohawk Ryderz Road Captain
www.MohawkRyderz.com

"We drop sukaz!"

-
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_GwgOmlI0ht.../s400/byah.jpg
  Send a message via AIM to Send a message via AIM to Widow Maker  
Reply With Quote
Unread
  (#14)
The last urrbendah
 
Stillie's Avatar
 
Posts: 18,909
Join Date: February 5, 2003
Location: Kickin' it with Stevie Janowski
February 20, 2011, 04:47 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by turkishexpress

The day a NASCAR driver is recruited to drive a DTM, WRC, F1, F2, or F3 car and does it successfully I'll agree with you.
You don't exactly see drivers coming over from other orgs and setting the world on fire. Remember the IROC races?

PS. Why would you leave a higher paying series to go to a support class?


13 KTM 200 XC-W
15 KTM 350 XC-F

I might have a dirt bike problem.
  Send a message via AIM to  
Reply With Quote
Unread
  (#15)
Ballaugh Bridge
 
CrazyMotorcycleGuy's Avatar
 
Posts: 6,873
Join Date: September 29, 2002
Location: VA
February 20, 2011, 04:47 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Widow Maker View Post
How come they all wreck when they do the few races a year which have right turns?
What are you talking about? They wreck going straight!


'08 MARRC Expert Racer of the Year
2009 #3 Combined Overall Championship

  Send a message via AIM to  
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
vBulletin Skin developed by: vBStyles.com
All logos and trademarks in this site are property of their respective owner. The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2002-2010 by DCSportbikes.net. DCSportbikes.net is owned by End of Time Studios, LLC.