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Question Oil Change SIlly Question.... - September 6, 2013, 01:45 AM

SO I have 13 years constantly in the motorcycle game, but I am thinking of doing something sort of different when it comes to oil changes...

I run semi synthetic 10W40 (any brand) and change my oil and filter every 4500 to 5500 miles (street bike).

I will admit this part if based on being lazy....
Ive been running the bike in high RPM/harder than normal this season...

Rule is always..the more you change the oil...the less chance of issues...
But I was thinking of changing the oil at 3000 miles and the oil filter every other change...so every 6000 miles.

What I can not find is oil filter mileage test...like how long are they good for?
3000 miles? 5000 miles? 10,000 miles ?

again super easy and quick for me to drop the oil and refil, a little more work for the filter....

What do you think? and do you know oil filter mileage for bikes? I see cars with super high milage capabilities on the oil filter.

My bike is a 2011 ZX10R


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September 6, 2013, 07:03 AM

That's pretty much how I did it in my racebikes for years.

I drop the oil more often so I can look for problems before they get too serious. The filter is to take out any particulates. I'd guess that the 3,000 / 6,000 plan is fine.

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September 6, 2013, 07:09 AM

If I remember correctly, OEM filters are ok for every other oil change. I'm pretty certain I've read that in a few owners manuals. Some bikes (Triumph, Moto guzzi, BMW, Aprilia) say change oil every 6000 miles.


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September 6, 2013, 07:33 AM

Some bikes can take a larger filter than they came stock with, extending the filter area... extending the life.

For example, the Triumph 955, 1050, R6, R1, and I think ZX-6.. probably others as well all take the Purolator 14612 as stock. The 14610 is a direct swap, just 1" longer body.


Would be worth looking into for your bike as well.


edit: looked for you... the same model filter fits the ZX-10 as well.
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I thought a larger filter had a negative impact on the oil pressure. True or not true?
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September 6, 2013, 07:42 AM

There may be some info on this at the calsci oil filter page.
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September 6, 2013, 07:50 AM

There was a site with tons of oil and oil filter information somewhere. I wonder if it is still around because it had tons of information. It had all of the oil specs and filter information, including cross references. I have bookmarked and lost that page a ton of times, and I can't find it now.

Anyway, the reason I mention it is because the author did some serious research on oil filters and found that Fram basically sucks. One of the best ones out there is the SuperTech (that used to be shelved in Walmart), in fact.

My policy has been filter change with every other oil change because the conditions here are relatively clean. If I were in the midwest wihere there are a ton of gravel and dirt roads, I'd change the oil more frequently and the filter every time.


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There may be some info on this at the calsci oil filter page.
That's the page I was referring to! Thanks!!!

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I'll check my manual this weekend but I was reading through it for the break in procedures the other day and i'm pretty positive it said a filter is every other change.


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September 6, 2013, 08:11 AM

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That's the page I was referring to! Thanks!!!

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September 6, 2013, 08:24 AM

I've been doing it that way on my mini cooper (though it calls for ridiculous 15k oil changes), so the filter gets changed every 10k, oil every 5k.

I don't see a problem doing it with a motorcycle (3k oil, 6k filter) with the exception of the first 2 or 3 oil changes on a new motorcycle/car where both oil and filter should be replaced at the same time.


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Damn, I run mobile 1 full synt, change oil and filter every 2k. Guess that's overkill.
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September 6, 2013, 09:54 AM

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I thought a larger filter had a negative impact on the oil pressure. True or not true?
Oil flow > Oil pressure.

Larger filters flow more oil.
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September 6, 2013, 02:48 PM

ok thanks fellas....
I have always changed both and what promted this was silly...I went to cycle gear because they had oil on sale...1 gallon for $24.99 and at the check out she ask if i had my filter...
I was in the store to buy leather pants and saw the oil and was like...why not...so im sitting here thinking...I want to change my oil at the 3k mark but not the filter. I keep at least 3 to 5 filters on the shelf at home because of the race bike....

I use cheap filters (sorry) like frame ($5 at walmart) for my race bike because I change oil every 400 track miles and filter every 400 to 800 track miles depending on the heat and bigger tracks like VIR with high RPMs....

I normally guy a OEM filter for my street bike from colemans since they have the best price on OEM ($9+).

ok lost my chain of thought.


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