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OS on SSD, right? - May 2, 2013, 05:26 PM

I just bought a new computer for the first time in 8 years and while it has a solid state drive, it came with the operating system installed on the regular hard drive. I'm currently installing it on the solid state drive, but I was wondering if there is any reason that you would have it installed on the regular hard drive? Is Dell just being lazy or is there something that I'm missing?
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Odd. My macbook has everything on the SSD. Works fine, fast as hell.


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sounds like a mistake or they were using the SSD as a caching drive but that is only typical of a very small SSD.


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Yeah, typically I've been seeing smaller SSD's and not 500gig ones. They are coming, but fairly expensive currently. I'd love to have a multi-terrabyte drive in mine. Just too expensive.


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Re: OS on SSD, right? - May 2, 2013, 05:54 PM

This is why Apple is crushing the market. I just bought a brand new computer and now I have to reinstall the Os. User experience fail.
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Apple OS is better for so many other reasons too lol.


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Apple OS is better for so many other reasons too lol.
...for people that don't know how to use computers

I don't really have anything against the OS other than I'm very proficient with Windows already. The main thing I have against Apple is the amount of money they charge you for that logo on the front of it. It's terrible bang for the buck.
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...for people that don't know how to use computers

I don't really have anything against the OS other than I'm very proficient with Windows already. The main thing I have against Apple is the amount of money they charge you for that logo on the front of it. It's terrible bang for the buck.
Actually you are wrong. Bang for your buck goes to the Macbooks in general. More reliable, less support calls, less peripheral issues, and none of the Windows registry issues of the past. Stable, long lifespan products that are still decent after 4-5 years.

For example. I have a 17 inch macbook pro from my job. Still an excellent development platform for me. Works fine, does everything I need with decent speed. (Yes it's slower than a brand new macbook with SSD, but that's to be expected.) I've developed on both windows, unix, and mac platforms over the years. After 2 years I've literally ALWAYS had to wipe my machine and start again. Either that or get a new one. I'm technical, I can deal. But for your average non-tech user that's total bullshit IMO.

Is a Mac a bit more techie for a lot of things. YMMV.

And no. I'm not a mac fanboy. That are certainly things that annoy me. But the level of integration and shit that just works....much higher on a mac.


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Did you buy the computer from dell and package in an SSD? Did you ask for both HD's? If you don't specify that you want the OS on the SSD then they won't do that.


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Actually you are wrong. Bang for your buck goes to the Macbooks in general. More reliable, less support calls, less peripheral issues, and none of the Windows registry issues of the past. Stable, long lifespan products that are still decent after 4-5 years.

For example. I have a 17 inch macbook pro from my job. Still an excellent development platform for me. Works fine, does everything I need with decent speed. (Yes it's slower than a brand new macbook with SSD, but that's to be expected.) I've developed on both windows, unix, and mac platforms over the years. After 2 years I've literally ALWAYS had to wipe my machine and start again. Either that or get a new one. I'm technical, I can deal. But for your average non-tech user that's total bullshit IMO.

Is a Mac a bit more techie for a lot of things. YMMV.

And no. I'm not a mac fanboy. That are certainly things that annoy me. But the level of integration and shit that just works....much higher on a mac.
I get a new laptop every other year for my job so I've had my previous Dell from college for 8 years. It's a computer, they're commodities and reliability is a given unless you screw it up. During that time, there haven't been any issues I couldn't figure out with a Google search.

Sure, mac's are much more intuitive and arguably cheaper if you don't know how to use a computer or can't figure out how to troubleshoot, wipe, etc, but buying new it's not even close. I just got an i7 3.4ghz, 16GB RAM, 2GB graphics card, dedicated audio card, 256GB SSD + 2TB 7200rpm drive, for $900. An equivalent mac would be over $4,500. So over the next 8 years, if I wanted to spend 4,500, I could A)buy a mac and keep it for 8 years or B) buy a brand new PC every two years, end up with new technology, and still save money. That's a joke of a value proposition. You are paying a ridiculous amount of money for a logo and some marketing.

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Did you buy the computer from dell and package in an SSD? Did you ask for both HD's? If you don't specify that you want the OS on the SSD then they won't do that.
Yes, that's silly they don't default to the SSD. Why undermine your user experience? Most people would just use the thing and not realize any benefit from it and they would never know that it was supposed to be installed differently.

Again, this is why apple adoption is growing. It's like Mud said, shit just works, and for most people, that's better.
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SSD's can only read/write so many times before they go bad.

Depending on what you're doing, I'd be careful of what you put on there.

I just had to replace a Sandisk SSD after a lil more than a year.

Sandisk had 3 year warranty and sent me a new one free of charge.
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SSD's can only read/write so many times before they go bad.

Depending on what you're doing, I'd be careful of what you put on there.

I just had to replace a Sandisk SSD after a lil more than a year.

Sandisk had 3 year warranty and sent me a new one free of charge.

I have one of the original intel ones, and I put it in my old college laptop a few years ago. It has been a very solid performer zero issues to date, the chassis stays much cooler and I get a 20-30 more minutes out of a charge on a old battery that seldom lasted and hour.

I used a microcenter one in my desktop... first one was buggy of so I thought. After I replaced it I realized I was having a conflict with my sound card and glitches all from my network card. I use it as a boot drive and for video rendering, all my programs and I use a traditional 1TB platter drive as a secondary for storage. It runs great on this set up.

The intel drive like I said has been stellar!


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I love my Crucial M4's, i'm actually only running on SSD's with no HDD. I do occasionally back up my stuff to an external drive. SSD reliability has really come a long was from what they used to be. I can't wait till the are the primary storage medium


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