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For the Patriot - Your quote for today - April 3, 2007, 10:37 PM

For the citizen

"Beware the leader who bangs the drum of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor. For patriotism is indeed a double- edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and patriotism, will offer up all of their rights to the leader and gladly so.
How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Julius Caesar."

~ William Shakespear




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April 3, 2007, 11:47 PM

No hoorahs in here


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April 3, 2007, 11:58 PM

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April 4, 2007, 01:05 AM

Caesar got a bum rap. Also to contrast current politicians with Caesar is a great injustice to Caesar. Most politicians now days have no idea about civil duty, citizenry or patriotism. The amazing thing is America is currently exactly where the late republic was and the problems we face are alarmingly similar, (minus the barbarians etc..) Too bad most people don't take the time to learn their history, doomed to etc etc you know the rest.

Interesting fact: During the war with carthage, Romans greeted each other with "Good Day Roman Citizen, Death to Carthage" this was how they said hello and goodbye to each other.
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April 4, 2007, 07:42 AM

interesting quote, good info from harvey,

but its spelled shakespeare


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April 4, 2007, 07:48 AM

the fear of outsiders has been well used throughout history by malevolent (and benevolent) leaders to consolidate power. Without proper checks (namely a well informed and cynical (in the debate sense) populace), this type of manipulation is easy...and even WITH those checks (germany 1930's, which while having a very well educated in the classical sense populace, had enough stored up animosity due to WWI and its result to overcome the logic of its people), the manipulation is still possible.

as harvey said, know your history


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et tu chaney.... just doesn't have the right ring to it.....


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April 4, 2007, 09:58 AM

Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.

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Our country is not the only thing to which we owe our allegiance. It is also owed to justice and to humanity. Patriotism consists not in waving the flag, but in striving that our country shall be righteous as well as strong.
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I think there is one higher office than president and I would call that patriot.

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April 4, 2007, 10:28 AM

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April 4, 2007, 05:42 PM

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It is well that war is so terrible, or we should grow too fond of it.

-Robert E Lee
Sadly thier is a greater fondness for the indeniable fortunes that war generates.


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et tu chaney.... just doesn't have the right ring to it.....
Wonder what's Latin for "Don't shoot me in the face Mr. Vice President."


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Omnia mutantur et stercus accidit

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