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Pelosi vs CIA ...Who's telling the truth? - May 19, 2009, 05:01 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...apologize-cia/

Pelosi caused a stir last week when she accused the CIA of misleading Congress about its use of enhanced interrogation techniques on terror detainees, particularly on Abu Zubaydah.
"Yes I am saying the CIA was misleading the Congress, and at the same time the (Bush) administration was misleading the Congress on weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, to which I said that this intelligence doesn't support the imminent threat," Pelosi said at her weekly news conference on Thursday.
"Every step of the way the administration was misleading the Congress and that is the issue and that's why we need a truth commission," she said.

House Minority Leader John Boehner told FOX News on Monday that "the ball is in the speaker's court." If she is accusing the CIA of lying, she "needs to come forward, either present evidence or do an apology, and let's get this behind us."
"Lying to Congress is a crime. Purposely misleading Congress is a crime. And if the speaker is accusing the intelligence community of lying to her or purposefully misleading her, then she ought to present that evidence, turn it over to the Justice Department, have them prosecute it," Boehner said.


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Neither & Both

Each party has a history of deception yet each must have moments when they speak the truth, even if it happens by accident.

But in my opinion, Pelosi has yet to have one of those magical moments.



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CIA is telling the truth this time.


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Pelosi wants a due over and she is bullsh*tting her a$$ off. She is going to get popped for it too.
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Neither & Both

Each party has a history of deception yet each must have moments when they speak the truth, even if it happens by accident.

But in my opinion, Pelosi has yet to have one of those magical moments.

+1. Like debating Rush Limbaugh and Michael Moore lying more.

Personally wouldn't disagree with the CIA, always that ninja agent coming to get you in the back of the mind.
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Pelosi's changed her tune 6 times. The CIA has notes from the meeting that show her as being there.

So unless she was having an out-of-body experience during the meeting (don't be surprised if she tries that excuse), I would have to say that on this particular instance, I believe the CIA.

A couple of pundits have made a somewhat believable case that this may also be a ploy by Obama to take her down a peg or three so she isn't quite so powerful.


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+1. Like debating Rush Limbaugh and Michael Moore lying more.
The Battle of the Fatsos.

Can we lock both of them in a room and see who eats his way out first?


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Every politician should serve two terms... one in office followed immediately by an equal or longer-length one in jail... except in New Jersey where jail time is a pre-requisite to holding office.

Donkeys and Elephants belong in a zoo, not Congress.

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CIA tells the truth and wins.


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She's really trying to save face IMO about what she really knew. I believe she's lying and in the process severely damaging her political career.
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who do you believe:

The professional liar......or.....the people that make lies an art
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Like a typical career politician, she wants it both ways. Waterboarding was accepted in the days after 9/11, but as our outrage has subsided over the thousands of people killed that day, we don't condone such actions anymore. Now she's trying to jump on the bandwagon, the CIA be damned. I hope they keep her feet to the fire on this one and don't let her wiggle her way out of owning up to it.
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Pelosi is politically posturing herself.

She does not have the people's interest in mind. She is out for blood against the Bush administration. Always has and always will.

Read back on all the things Pelosi has done in the past few years.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi insisted Friday that she was briefed only once about the "enhanced" interrogation techniques being used on terrorism suspects and that she was assured by lawyers with the CIA and the Department of Justice that the methods were legal.

Pelosi issued a statement after CIA records released this week showed that Pelosi was briefed in September 2002 on the interrogation methods. The briefings memo appeared to contradict the speaker's claims that she was never told that waterboarding or other enhanced interrogation methods were being used.

"We were not -- I repeat -- were not told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation methods were used," Pelosi said on April 23.

The emphasis seems to be on "were used," even though she conceded in a statement that she was told they would be used.

"As I said in my statement of December 9, 2007: 'I was briefed on interrogation techniques the (Bush) administration was considering using in the future. The administration advised that legal counsel for both the CIA and the Department of Justice had concluded that the techniques were legal,'" she said.

But even that statement is at odds with the official record of the briefings recorded in the CIA memo dated to Sept. 4, 2002. That memo says Pelosi received a "briefing on EITs (enhanced interrogation techniques), including use of EITs on Abu Zubaydah, background on authorities and a description of particular EITs that had been employed."
Unreal. She's still lying.
Now she's saying that she knew EIT's were going to be used but not that they had been used.


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who do you believe:

The professional liar......or.....the people that make lies an art
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