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Personal Protection when riding.... - June 28, 2007, 02:48 PM

I have just wound up in a debate here a work... When I would do some distance riding - I used to carry a collaspable baton in my tank bag, but have pulled it as I was told there was a chance of being snagged for carring a concealed weapon..

Does anyone know what the laws are for Va and MD...


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June 28, 2007, 02:49 PM

I have heard the same thing.





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June 28, 2007, 02:52 PM

Just strap a tac rig on your thigh and ride with a handgun. VA has open carry laws, but you may get stopped and questioned. Still legal though.
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June 28, 2007, 03:22 PM

I am not worried so much about VA... But I live in the Peoples Republic of Maryland when it comes to personal weapons...


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June 28, 2007, 04:31 PM



retractable baton is illegal in va. from what i heard.

carry pepper spray

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June 28, 2007, 04:51 PM

I've never been attacked while riding my bike - anywhere. But I do carry personal protection of which I do not speak. I suggest you all do the same -- at least keep it off an open forum.


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June 28, 2007, 05:04 PM

Protection while riding...



For the record, I carry pepper spray - hidden away in an easily reachable but unnoticeable location on my bike.


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June 28, 2007, 05:07 PM

i always wanted to carry a broad sword or katana or some sort... but then i thought about if i were to wreck that might not be such a great idea.


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June 28, 2007, 06:30 PM

Where the fuck are you people riding? I've never worried about my safety on the bike, and I used to night ride in DC about every weekend when I lived closer.
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June 28, 2007, 06:33 PM

imho.. quicker to just haul ass than to go in a tank bag to get a weapon....
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Depends, the need for security isn't always WHILE ON the bike... you might be off the bike or gearing up. I've felt at risk 2 times - I thought I was about to get jumped - and both times I had gotten on the bike and sped off while they were still talking... but its as close as I want to come to an altercation on a bike.

The more threatening of the two came one night in New Orleans as I was leaving a pool/sports bar - and I was approached by about 5 guys. At first they just ask "how fast will it go?" as they walk by and I reply "fast enough" with a smile. They go and stand by their car for a second, the doors are open and they're talking, and I can hear random things like "I got your back", mumble mumble "punk ass" and I get the distinct vibe that something bad is about to happen as they appear to be psyching each other up. I'm sitting on the bike getting my gloves on when they start to approach me again - one of them pretty quietly says "Hey bitch" - I don't respond. Then louder - "Hey bitch" - I don't respond again. "I know you hear me motherf..... I'm talking to you" (or something like that - this was about 4 years ago - only much louder this time). I skip securing my gloves and start the bike while he's talking and notice one of the group in my mirror, coming up behind me. I looked at the guy talking and sped off.

The way I see it, I was only a second or two from being jumped - getting pulled off the bike and beat down while someone rode off with it. If they had made it to me before I could take off what then? I figure having pepper spray would buy me a second or two to escape if it ever happened like that again. Reach down, pull the spray (which I can articulate while gloved) from my velcro strap - spray the immediate threats drop the spray and haul ass.

And honestly, you never know when something like that will come in handy - so I also have a large one in both my cars and my wife has a miniature one on her keychain. It is intended only to buy enough time to escape - used by surprise, not warning.

I have yet to feel the need to carry a gun... but I now own a Glock 27 - so if it comes to that I have a gun that is easy to carry.

I remember reading another story of someone on here who was basically attacked by a road raging driver who stepped out of his car at a stoplight on rt 7 in Sterling. In those situations - pepperspray would be good to have.


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June 28, 2007, 08:35 PM

You never know!
Similar situation as above happened to me. I was alone in a parking lot and not even close to my bike... staring down six drunk college football players looking to kick the shit out some body! Situation defused thanks to Sig Sauer.
99.9% of the time I am carring.
If it's to difficult to carry a firearm at the given time, I am usually concealing one, possibly two knives. Please don't let this added info change how you look at me.
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June 28, 2007, 09:00 PM

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i always wanted to carry a broad sword or katana or some sort... but then i thought about if i were to wreck that might not be such a great idea.
I agree...wrecking with the world's sharpest knife strapped to your chest might not lend the best results.


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June 28, 2007, 10:24 PM

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Or you could just fill out the paperwork and get a CCW. Takes a little while for them to process the papers but it's not a big deal. Once the judge signs it, you're good to go.

Personally, i would just go the concealed route and have a CCW rather than open carry. I open carry when i go out in my jeep but to open carry in NOVA, i don't think so, perfectly legal but i don't want to catch a bunch of flack for no reason just because someone sees my HK .45 and freaks out.
Unfortunately in the People's Communist Repblic of Maryland, you can't get a CCW very easily. You have to prove an active threat against your life. They're not a Shall Issue state like VA.

BUT, you can apply for a Utah out of state and Florida out of state which should be good in VA.


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"Then there are the wolves," the old war veteran said, "and the wolves feed on the sheep without mercy." Do you believe there are wolves out there who will feed on the flock without mercy? You better believe it. There are evil men in this world and they are capable of evil deeds. The moment you forget that or pretend it is not so, you become a sheep. There is no safety in denial.

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