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Police Break Into Private Residence And Taze Person Filming - May 14, 2013, 05:29 PM


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How are police expected to properly do their jobs with fuckhattery like this going on?
If you are not doing anything wrong and have nothing to hide, open the fucking door. They are obviously there because someone called them. Maybe it was a mistake and a few minutes of explaining would clear it up. They have no idea if you are even the homeowner, or some crazy who has the actually homeowner tied up in the closet. It is shit like this that will cost someone there life one day. Police have to be able to properly report to calls to make sure there isn't anything going on. I bet if they left and someone got murdered, it would be all over the news that they were there and did nothing. You can't have it both ways people.


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Police Break Into Private Residence And Taze Person Filming - May 14, 2013, 05:54 PM

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How are police expected to properly do their jobs with fuckhattery like this going on?
If you are not doing anything wrong and have nothing to hide, open the fucking door. They are obviously there because someone called them. Maybe it was a mistake and a few minutes of explaining would clear it up. They have no idea if you are even the homeowner, or some crazy who has the actually homeowner tied up in the closet. It is shit like this that will cost someone there life one day. Police have to be able to properly report to calls to make sure there isn't anything going on. I bet if they left and someone got murdered, it would be all over the news that they were there and did nothing. You can't have it both ways people.
I suppose the fourth amendment means nothing to you then? We are constitutionally protected from unlawful search and seizures. This was breaking and entering followed by assault.

Also "shit like this" as you put it, does cost people their lives. However it is the police who fucking kill innocent people. No knock warrants are executed every day in this country and often times the inhabitants get shot. There are numerous cases of police performing a no knock on the wrong house and killing someone. When later investigated by the same people who committed the breaking and entering and second degree homicide the officers involved are not liable for the mistake and continue on their career of violating the oath they swore to uphold.

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How are police expected to properly do their jobs with fuckhattery like this going on?
If you are not doing anything wrong and have nothing to hide, open the fucking door. They are obviously there because someone called them. Maybe it was a mistake and a few minutes of explaining would clear it up. They have no idea if you are even the homeowner, or some crazy who has the actually homeowner tied up in the closet. It is shit like this that will cost someone there life one day. Police have to be able to properly report to calls to make sure there isn't anything going on. I bet if they left and someone got murdered, it would be all over the news that they were there and did nothing. You can't have it both ways people.
There's something called the Constitution that MUST be the basis for thier behavior. It provides a framework for the basis of thier conduct in an official fasion.

If they had no warrant then a bunch of citizens just busted down a neighbors door and tazed him. You gonna let your neighbors break your shit down and assault your wife?


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Don't give the police a reason to come to your house and shit like this doesn't happen. They deserved it in my mind. And what did the guy filming mean when he said that they don't live in a police state? We're the guys on the other side dressed up as cops for Halloween?

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How are police expected to properly do their jobs with fuckhattery like this going on?
If you are not doing anything wrong and have nothing to hide, open the fucking door. They are obviously there because someone called them. Maybe it was a mistake and a few minutes of explaining would clear it up. They have no idea if you are even the homeowner, or some crazy who has the actually homeowner tied up in the closet. It is shit like this that will cost someone there life one day. Police have to be able to properly report to calls to make sure there isn't anything going on. I bet if they left and someone got murdered, it would be all over the news that they were there and did nothing. You can't have it both ways people.
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1. If the guy was still talking to the officers, then they certainly had time to call and have somebody bring a warrant.

2. He *should* have opened the door. But without probable cause or an immediate threat, the officers were breaking the law. Breaking and entering, assault, and I think child endangerment.

3. No. The officers do not have a right to just enter a house. Period. The guy in the house is a total asshat for putting his kid/family through that.

So Asshat 1 runs into idjit cop 1-3. Probably responding to a call. Sounded like a domestic disturbance call. Guy was talking through the window and refusing to let them enter. OK. Regroup, continue discussion, get warrant, enter house legally. Instead, too many bad movies and the cops decide that they have the right to enter. See the irony here. They don't have the "right" to enter. In fact the guy living there is the only one with "rights". And they pretty much trampled all over them. I'm sure it was with good intentions. But you can't trample on the rights you are supposed to uphold. No matter how much it pisses you off. Otherwise you become the bad guy.

On the upside - Asshat #1 probably got what he deserved. (Something that will keep him from repeating this.)

Downside - The police WILL get sued for violating his constitutionally mandated rights. Given that he was speaking to the police through the window (Like you can do through many screen doors.) And he refused entry into the house. They broke the law in my opinion. (Might not mean much, but I'm entitled to it. You know. Rights and all.)

Still. What a bunch of idjits.


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May 14, 2013, 06:34 PM

I see both sides to the opinions above but for some reason this video feels like it's fake. Any links to a news story related to it?

I did a quick google search and came up with nothing other then more links to the video. Seems it was first published via InfoWars? :rollseyes:

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1. If the guy was still talking to the officers, then they certainly had time to call and have somebody bring a warrant.

2. He *should* have opened the door. But without probable cause or an immediate threat, the officers were breaking the law. Breaking and entering, assault, and I think child endangerment.

3. No. The officers do not have a right to just enter a house. Period. The guy in the house is a total asshat for putting his kid/family through that.

So Asshat 1 runs into idjit cop 1-3. Probably responding to a call. Sounded like a domestic disturbance call. Guy was talking through the window and refusing to let them enter. OK. Regroup, continue discussion, get warrant, enter house legally. Instead, too many bad movies and the cops decide that they have the right to enter. See the irony here. They don't have the "right" to enter. In fact the guy living there is the only one with "rights". And they pretty much trampled all over them. I'm sure it was with good intentions. But you can't trample on the rights you are supposed to uphold. No matter how much it pisses you off. Otherwise you become the bad guy.

On the upside - Asshat #1 probably got what he deserved. (Something that will keep him from repeating this.)

Downside - The police WILL get sued for violating his constitutionally mandated rights. Given that he was speaking to the police through the window (Like you can do through many screen doors.) And he refused entry into the house. They broke the law in my opinion. (Might not mean much, but I'm entitled to it. You know. Rights and all.)

Still. What a bunch of idjits.
They were just yelling, dat domestic disturbance doe.

Fuck those pigs.


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May 14, 2013, 06:40 PM

Maybe I'm confused?
If the police decide to start knocking on doors randomly one at a time and demanding entry and searching homes (think Nazi Germany), that would be a different story.

I feel like if the neighbors, or the victim, call the police because of a domestic issue... they have a job to do and a responsibility to check it out. Don't they?
Why make their job harder, and take a bad situation to worse?

I just think, if you are not doing anything wring you shouldn't provoke situations like this.

I have been pulled over when carrying and I have told the police and it was no issue.
I have also been asked to leave a sporting event when someone spotted my ccw. I let the two officers escort me outside. Produced the docs for the ccw, and went back inside and enjoyed the came. Could I have got my camera out and went all shitty, screaming about rights and shit... sure, but instead it sucked 6 minutes out of my life doing it my way.

Yeah. I guess its just a sticking situation. A lot of grey.
I'm not overly concerned with it.


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Maybe I'm confused?
If the police decide to start knocking on doors randomly one at a time and demanding entry and searching homes (think Nazi Germany), that would be a different story.

I feel like if the neighbors, or the victim, call the police because of a domestic issue... they have a job to do and a responsibility to check it out. Don't they?
Why make their job harder, and take a bad situation to worse?

I just think, if you are not doing anything wring you shouldn't provoke situations like this.

I have been pulled over when carrying and I have told the police and it was no issue.
I have also been asked to leave a sporting event when someone spotted my ccw. I let the two officers escort me outside. Produced the docs for the ccw, and went back inside and enjoyed the came. Could I have got my camera out and went all shitty, screaming about rights and shit... sure, but instead it sucked 6 minutes out of my life doing it my way.

Yeah. I guess its just a sticking situation. A lot of grey.
I'm not overly concerned with it.
So you're cool with just having cops search your shit whenever they want, warrantless?


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Police Break Into Private Residence And Taze Person Filming - May 14, 2013, 06:55 PM

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Maybe I'm confused?
If the police decide to start knocking on doors randomly one at a time and demanding entry and searching homes (think Nazi Germany), that would be a different story.

I feel like if the neighbors, or the victim, call the police because of a domestic issue... they have a job to do and a responsibility to check it out. Don't they?
Why make their job harder, and take a bad situation to worse?

I just think, if you are not doing anything wring you shouldn't provoke situations like this.

I have been pulled over when carrying and I have told the police and it was no issue.
I have also been asked to leave a sporting event when someone spotted my ccw. I let the two officers escort me outside. Produced the docs for the ccw, and went back inside and enjoyed the came. Could I have got my camera out and went all shitty, screaming about rights and shit... sure, but instead it sucked 6 minutes out of my life doing it my way.

Yeah. I guess its just a sticking situation. A lot of grey.
I'm not overly concerned with it.
Why? Because we are protected by the constitution of the United States if America, that's why.


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Sorry, but I think the prevalence of cameras is cutting back on the abuse of power. I know plenty of great cops. Good people trying to do a difficult job. I also have met more then a few asshats in blue on power trips. Courts will generally accord officers respect over your average citizen. In other words, officers words against yours....you lose. Makes sense. But can be abused.

The officer didn't state that he was in violation for anything. And just having the police called doesn't mean squat. It actually has to be going on for something like that. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. The video didn't show.

I must have missed that part of the constitution where they said that "reports" take precedence over a person's rights. Or maybe it was a new amendment? And while we are at it. When did a videocamera become justification for using potentially lethal force. (Sorry, but tazers are LESS lethal. Not NON-Lethal. They have killed people with weak hearts, etc.) They had 3 cops, he was a total idjit, and they could certainly have subdued him quickly enough. Where is a good old billy-club when it's needed? That would have driven home the point.

Oh yeah. I have never been in that situation. Never been in jail. Never been arrested. Have had a few moving violations over the years. I think even a parking ticket once. I stay calm, talk nicely, and have zero issues. But if an officer were at my door saying he's coming in....he had better be invited. Otherwise he needs a warrant. Period. My property. Not owned by the police, state, or federal government. Yet.


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So you're cool with just having cops search your shit whenever they want, warrantless?

You never know. Maybe he likes the rubber glove and fat hands.

Now can we change the subject to something less painful. How about them Caps.

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