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Reminder- Virginia, Scooters + Mopeds Titles
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Reminder- Virginia, Scooters + Mopeds Titles - June 19, 2014, 02:24 PM

'Just a reminder that in VA, by 7/1/14, all mopeds and vehicles designated as mopeds under VA law (such as small displacement scooters) must be titled and registered. I have a 49cc 2-stroke Yamaha Vino that I bought 12 years ago for my wife to take to the Metro. I've lost the certificate of origin, and it never had a title of course, but the DMV claims I can use the bill of sale from the dealership and form VSA 12M, with VSA 31, and VSA 17A. My son used it a few years ago to ride to school and he lent it to a friend who graduated last year, so its out there somewhere and still sees action, so it needs a plate.

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June 19, 2014, 04:40 PM

Virginia - Hey, are you being fuel efficient and reducing traffic congestion and pollution?
GIMME SOME MORE MONEY!

DC - Do you work out? Do Yoga? Do you take care of yourself and take pressure off the Healthcare system?
GIMME SOME MORE MONEY!

MD - Hey, illegal immigrants want to go to college here. You need to support this.
GIMME SOME MORE MONEY!

Sometimes I wonder if we elect politicians only to figure out better and newer schemes to tax the constituency.



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June 19, 2014, 04:56 PM

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Sometimes I wonder if we elect politicians only to figure out better and newer schemes to tax the constituency.
And in MD they are proposing a miles driven tax in addition to the gas tax.

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June 20, 2014, 09:32 AM

It opens the door to mopeds also needing insurance and inspection, and to having bicycles titled/registered/insured in Virginia. Bicycles use the road (share the tax burden), can cause death or injuries to rider or pedestrian (public safety), may be used as a getaway vehicle (crime), could be better tracked if stolen (we're just trying to help you), and the rider better identified in case of injury if the bike is registered (again, for your benefit). These are all reasons given for requiring registration for mopeds, and they apply to bicycles also. But there are more bicyclists than moped riders, and they come from all socioeconomic levels, so they have more clout to prevent such an overbearing law from passing.

Really it's about power, revenue, and keeping tabs on people. Right now VA has no idea how many scoots are out there, and doesn't like that. The registration will be yearly and cost over $20, for poor people and students who make up a large portion of the moped ridership. There are already laws on the books that prohibit drunkards with suspended/revoked DLs from piloting a scoot, and none of the other reasons hold water either. I.D. cards are already required when riding a moped, which would better identify the actual rider than the plates. The number of people injured by an errant moped or property damage incurred by one must be slim to none, and a moped is a very poor choice as a getaway vehicle. A dirt bike or bicycle would be much better. Politically, it's a safe bet for lawmakers to legislate in the name of public safety. And pols never miss an opportunity to generate revenue. I guess we should be glad you don't need a permit and pay a fee to walk on the sidewalk.

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Shit.... I thought this was next year....

Well, time to sell my 50cc...


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I guess we should be glad you don't need a permit and pay a fee to walk on the sidewalk.
Just wait.


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Sometimes I wonder if we elect politicians only to figure out better and newer schemes to tax the constituency.
To think a revolution was started over a tax on a drink...... we are nothing but fucking lemmings now.


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June 20, 2014, 11:32 AM

Just tagged my Zuma.
$20.25 per year.
Still no inspection or insurance requirement nor any personal property taxes.
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Oh really? Ok, thats doable then.

BTW Steve, still interested in the little quad.


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Just tagged my Zuma.
$20.25 per year.
Still no inspection or insurance requirement nor any personal property taxes.
No biggie.
...yet.



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Oh really? Ok, thats doable then. BTW Steve, still interested in the little quad.
Just check the box that says under 35 mph.
We will have to do a quick road trip to get the quad.


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Just check the box that says under 35 mph.
We will have to do a quick road trip to get the quad.
Will any scooter do over 35 with you? I keed.

Sounds good man


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Will any scooter do over 35 with you? I keed. Sounds good man
FU.
My Zuma May or may not do 39 with me on it.
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Japan Scooter Race Video - YouTube

by the way:
The first start they show with the guy all over the place is how I imagine myself if I ever tried a race start. Then the guy going into the grass immediately thereafter - yeah that's a good representation of my normal riding characteristics.

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Must be winter in June, I actually completely agree with Heist...
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