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Resident HVAC Guy - June 28, 2013, 04:36 PM

Hey guys I know we had a trusted resident HVAC guy that was a member on here. Please Pm or post up his name and number if anyone has it. Thanks!! This is for our property in Sterling.


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452-le mike worked for united air temp..

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June 28, 2013, 05:29 PM

Residential (single family/ townhome) or multifamily housing (condo/apt)? What type of HVAC system do you have (refrigerant based or hydronic based).

If anyone here owns a condo in a building built prior to the mid 1980's, it is more likely than not, that your heating/cooling system is based off a central plant in the building (boiler/chiller) and the types of actual heating/cooling units you have are called fan coil units (aka. convectors, air handlers, fcu's,etc...). I work on THIS type of system and can always help you out.

If you have a SFH or a TH... Good luck not getting raped by the crooks... Err I mean HVAC companies! HA!


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It's a townhome with a unit outside. I think it was built in 1988 but not sure of what type of unit.


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Gas or Heat pump.

If the air isn't working, probably the capacitor. First real heat of the season eats a bunch of them.

I emailed you some information.
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Gas or Heat pump.

If the air isn't working, probably the capacitor. First real heat of the season eats a bunch of them.

I emailed you some information.
Got it thanks pimp. I think we need to replace the unit so I'm trying to get some people to give us a realistic range. I'm pretty sure we're going to have to spend some money.


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June 28, 2013, 09:01 PM

Turk, going to jump in on your convo because I have a question for a HVAC professional as well.
My question is about installation pricing. My current heat pump is an early 2000's Trane. It began having problems the techs couldn't quite put to bed. After three service recalls my home warranty has elected to replace the entire unit.

I was hoping they would bump me to R410 but it's going to be an empty R22 based Goodman system. Bleh.

I'm not overly familiar with Goodman. I have heard the name. What does everyone think about the brand? Anything to lookout for?

Here's the rub: Although I'm not paying for the unit or installation, there are a series of non-covered items I must pay for. These are being charged by the HVAC service co directly.
Something about the numbers makes me feel as if they're trying to recoup losses on the three re-call service calls where they made $0.

Can someone please tell me if these figures are within industry standard:
- Purge and Recapture of the system (5lbs of R22 in my current unit)
$325
- Disposal: F that! I'm not letting them walk off with a box of copper, aluminum, steel worth $50-60 at a scrapper and charge me for it?!
$125
- Lineset: 3/4 - 3/8 lines. My unit is right next to the building, but I'm on the top floor. I want to say its a total 40' run from my air handler closet to the base of the heat pump.
$135
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Recharge prices are high. Other stuff looks okay but that is just a laypersons opinion.
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Turk, going to jump in on your convo because I have a question for a HVAC professional as well.
My question is about installation pricing. My current heat pump is an early 2000's Trane. It began having problems the techs couldn't quite put to bed. After three service recalls my home warranty has elected to replace the entire unit.

I was hoping they would bump me to R410 but it's going to be an empty R22 based Goodman system. Bleh.

I've not overly familiar with Goodman. I have heard the name. What does everyone think about the brand? Anything to lookout for?

Here's the rub: Although I'm not paying for the unit or installation, there are a series of non-covered items I must pay for. These are being charged by the HVAC service and something about the numbers makes me feel as if they're trying to recoup losses on the three re-call service calls where they made $0.
Can some tell me if these jive with industry standard:
- Purge and Recapture of the system (5lbs of R22 in my current unit)
$325
- Disposal: F that! I'm not letting them walk off with a box of copper, aluminum, steel worth $50-60 at a scrapper and charge me for it?!
$125
- Lineset: 3/4 - 3/8 lines. My unit is right next to the building, but I'm on the top floor. I want to say its a total 40' run from my air handler closet to the base of the heat pump.
$135
- Pad / Pump-Up
$95
1- goodman is shit. PERIOD
2- purge/recapture is something I can comment on since I don't know the current cost of r22
3-disposal cost is bs since they are scrapping it just like you said... tell them they can have it if they remove it for free, otherwise tell them that you'll dispose of it yourself and if you don't want to then ask the tech if he wants it as scrap when he removes it.
4- you shouldn't need the full run of copper since you already have the pipes there and they are just googling new equipment into existing lines. That seems high as I can get around 90'-120' of 3/4" type-L copper for that price
-pad/pump up is just a fancy way if saying "cheap plastic platform to sit your condenser on" I bet they pay maybe $35 for it

Installation shouldn't cost you more than $1200-$1300 MAX and that's assuming an entire day at a very healthy $150 or so an hour which shouldn't be the case. Press for around the $1000 mark in installation of just the outside condenser unit. And prolly another $800 for the AHU inside your home.

Materials, you should expect to pay a premium markup price since its probably gone through a few hands before it gets to you.


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Pop a hole in the line and let it vent. When done being noisy, cut the lines and haul it out. Call them back and say you only need installation since someone stole your unit. Chop it up and take it to the recycling place.
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Pop a hole in the line and let it vent. When done being noisy, cut the lines and haul it out. Call them back and say you only need installation since someone stole your unit. Chop it up and take it to the recycling place.
I'm considering it...
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Turk, going to jump in on your convo because I have a question for a HVAC professional as well.
My question is about installation pricing. My current heat pump is an early 2000's Trane. It began having problems the techs couldn't quite put to bed. After three service recalls my home warranty has elected to replace the entire unit.

I was hoping they would bump me to R410 but it's going to be an empty R22 based Goodman system. Bleh.

I'm not overly familiar with Goodman. I have heard the name. What does everyone think about the brand? Anything to lookout for?
They are not premier brand, but operate just fine. Copeland compressors and GE motors (I think). 5 year warranty- parts only. The SEER rating is going to be bottom end anyway. I've put in a few of these.
Here's the rub: Although I'm not paying for the unit or installation, there are a series of non-covered items I must pay for. These are being charged by the HVAC service co directly.
Something about the numbers makes me feel as if they're trying to recoup losses on the three re-call service calls where they made $0.

Can someone please tell me if these figures are within industry standard:
- Purge and Recapture of the system (5lbs of R22 in my current unit)
$325
You are paying labor AND disposal. Not just the labor of the guy sucking it out either. If the compressor motor burned a winding, the refrigerant cannot be recycled. It seems a tad high, but I don't know current disposal prices. That said, why are YOU paying for this? Is it some sort of exclusion in your warranty?
- Disposal: F that! I'm not letting them walk off with a box of copper, aluminum, steel worth $50-60 at a scrapper and charge me for it?!
$125
I have NEVER charged anyone for disposal. That is always part of the job. Weather or not I scrap it or trash it. That is a BS fee.
- Lineset: 3/4 - 3/8 lines. My unit is right next to the building, but I'm on the top floor. I want to say its a total 40' run from my air handler closet to the base of the heat pump.
$135
Why are they wanting to replace the lines? Unless the new unit requires a different liquid line size(the un insulated one) there is no reason. Ask them why. If they say size, ask to see the spec sheet. For 40' of copper plus insulation on one of them, that is a good price. Are they really replacing it from unit to unit? That might require cutting of walls and stuff for access unless it is run on the outside of the building.
- Pad / Pump-Up
$95
Cost is around $40 or so. What is wrong with what you have? Again, what is their reason for replacing it?
You need to chat this stuff over with your warranty folks also.


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^^^Thx. I understand every man needs to eat and has a duty to make profit on their work, but the numbers sounded somewhat klugy.

Yes, recapture was non-covered in the warranty. Not too happy to find this out because the way the sales agent explained, the coverage I purchased was enough to cover a Condo.

The Premium plan for $100 more would have covered everything I articulated above but the agent made it sound as if it covered things like permits, garage door openers, outdoor lighting, etc. Clearly not something I felt warranted.



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I replaced the older harder to replace carrier with a new charged one, and had my commercial hvac dude do the hookup. he charged 100$ to connect it check the pressure. I got the unit for 250 all charged NEW. I also have a full tank of the old stuff.

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