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Soldiers on motorcycles might be most effective in Afghanistan - June 10, 2013, 03:10 PM

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Interesting read, but this caption gave me one of those WTF moments:

"An Afghan soldier drags a rake behind a motorcycle to search for roadside bombs in Zabul Province in 2010."

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I have wondered when their use would resume. Perfectly logical.
Oh, wait. I kinda explained why it didn't come about sooner- logic
In all seriousness, they make great recon vehicles. They are as nimble yet faster than a horse (mostly). I read an article a while back (hell maybe 10 years) that the US military had only one big concern with using motorcycles- fuel logistics. That spawned some bastard child between Kawasaki and VM Motori. It was a diesel KLR, essentially. Don't know where it went, though.
edit- I dunno if it really was Kawi and Motori. That just sounded good.


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June 10, 2013, 05:20 PM

So throw a larger tank on a dirtbike. Seriously? How often would somebody need to go more than 200 miles without refueling? And if it's a typical gas powered you can pilfer along the way.

Diesel? ugh.

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I have wondered when their use would resume. Perfectly logical.
Oh, wait. I kinda explained why it didn't come about sooner- logic
In all seriousness, they make great recon vehicles. They are as nimble yet faster than a horse (mostly). I read an article a while back (hell maybe 10 years) that the US military had only one big concern with using motorcycles- fuel logistics. That spawned some bastard child between Kawasaki and VM Motori. It was a diesel KLR, essentially. Don't know where it went, though.
edit- I dunno if it really was Kawi and Motori. That just sounded good.


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"So the Special Forces adapted. They acquired motocross bikes and set up a training area in Lithuania to learn how to maneuver in rough terrain, jump and chase down skilled enemy riders."

Heh so it's like the military's MSF. Must've been quite something to see an armed motorcyclist vs another armed motorcyclist.


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I have wondered when their use would resume. Perfectly logical.
Oh, wait. I kinda explained why it didn't come about sooner- logic
In all seriousness, they make great recon vehicles. They are as nimble yet faster than a horse (mostly). I read an article a while back (hell maybe 10 years) that the US military had only one big concern with using motorcycles- fuel logistics. That spawned some bastard child between Kawasaki and VM Motori. It was a diesel KLR, essentially. Don't know where it went, though.
edit- I dunno if it really was Kawi and Motori. That just sounded good.

The Marine Corps had some diesel KLR650s. I tried talking my 1stSgt into sending me to the course for them since I had already done every other driver's courses (HMMV, 5-ton, bus, EOD).


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So throw a larger tank on a dirtbike. Seriously? How often would somebody need to go more than 200 miles without refueling? And if it's a typical gas powered you can pilfer along the way.

Diesel? ugh.
The issue is logistics ... Every tactical vehicle in the US inventory runs of of Jp8. Under heavy use, adding a completely new fuel to forward deployed units is a logistical nightmare


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Interesting read, but this caption gave me one of those WTF moments:

"An Afghan soldier drags a rake behind a motorcycle to search for roadside bombs in Zabul Province in 2010."

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Yeah, someone had to draw the short straw on that one. And moto cops here complain about riding in the winter. At least you are not raking for boom-booms...

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+1 We had a hard enough time getting that out to the field. Add something else and I guarantee we wouldn't see it.


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US military went away from bikes in WWII with the introduction of the Jeep. It was cheaper and easier to make, could be operated with much less training and carried more people/stuff. Maybe instead of bikes they should get these,



Mount a machine gun and you are set. They are already diesel so logistics work. Roll cage so fewer injuries. I know some SOF units have a very high speed version.
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