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August 12, 2017, 08:34 AM

For a weekend FUN car...I'd take the Vette over the Z. First mod would be exhaust. I think the Z sounds cool, but not as cool as an open V8.

For a track car... I'd get whichever one I got a better deal on and was well taken care of. Because honestly, They are both very capable cars in the right hands.


Then again... That's just me.

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My current boo above, sometimes you can get them under 50K-ish miles for
less than 10k. The one above (a 1999 WS6) I got at a dealership for 9.5K
with 55K on it. Another one had 30k on it I got for 12K and another for 10K.
They are regularly on ls1tech.com for half that with double the miles.


Long tube headers usually $300 ish will get you double digit HP gains with a
tune.

You only need a single Cam on them, no dual over head cam stuff to deal
with so that's cheaper too.

Another option, 2005-2006 GTO. I had one, they have 400 HP, manual and
have really come down in price. The car was fun, kind of had a sleeper thing
going on and has an interior similar to older BMW's of the era. I know I
probably look like a GM fan boy and I sort of am but I am for most fun per $
spent or HP. I would also consider a 2003-04 Cobra but I don't have enough
cash sitting around and don't want to finance another old car.


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1999 Trans AM WS6, Long tubes, full exhaust, extra sexy
2006 GTO 6spd, 1 of 390 Silver, SLP LM1 (Sold)
2001 R1; blue, Yoshi slip on (sold Jan 12, 2012)
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My current boo above, sometimes you can get them under 50K-ish miles for
less than 10k. The one above (a 1999 WS6) I got at a dealership for 9.5K
with 55K on it. Another one had 30k on it I got for 12K and another for 10K.
They are regularly on ls1tech.com for half that with double the miles.


Long tube headers usually $300 ish will get you double digit HP gains with a
tune.

You only need a single Cam on them, no dual over head cam stuff to deal
with so that's cheaper too.

Another option, 2005-2006 GTO. I had one, they have 400 HP, manual and
have really come down in price. The car was fun, kind of had a sleeper thing
going on and has an interior similar to older BMW's of the era. I know I
probably look like a GM fan boy and I sort of am but I am for most fun per $
spent or HP. I would also consider a 2003-04 Cobra but I don't have enough
cash sitting around and don't want to finance another old car.
While an f body is nice and relatively cheap they have weak brakes for their size, and their rear ends suck and and are made of glass..

GTO isn't wise either as parts availability is an issue and if you wreck it, you could be totalled or waiting a long tune for repair.


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August 15, 2017, 08:47 PM

Never heard of someone break a 10 bolt on regular tire.

Most are piss poor launches and stick cars that are poorly driven on way to sticky a tire.

They do have some limited slip issues but they are work around.

Anyone thinking they are buying a sports car for 10K is under a false presumption already.
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While an f body is nice and relatively cheap they have weak brakes for their size, and their rear ends suck and and are made of glass..

GTO isn't wise either as parts availability is an issue and if you wreck it, you could be totalled or waiting a long tune for repair.
Never really heard complaints about brakes on ls1tech, some people upgrade to Brembo's if they do road racing but otherwise not much. The rear ends get a bad wrap but that's only an issue when you get close to 400 WHP on a manual tranny. To get to 400WHP you'd need a cam, heads and a tune so that's a chunk of change anyway.

You're spot on with the GTO though, not very common car.


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1999 Trans AM WS6, Long tubes, full exhaust, extra sexy
2006 GTO 6spd, 1 of 390 Silver, SLP LM1 (Sold)
2001 R1; blue, Yoshi slip on (sold Jan 12, 2012)
(RIP) 2000 Camaro SS
1999 Trans Am Ws6 30k miles, 6spd (sold)
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August 18, 2017, 12:49 PM

I guess it's all comes down to what kind of driving experience one is looking for in a "fun" weekend car.

I guess for me I need the car to be reliable. I don't want to have to cross my fingers and went every 10 miles knowing that I'm getting 10 miles closer to something major breaking or expensive maintenance and repair bill.

Agile & somewhat light weight. I want to feel what the car is doing through the steering wheel with good feedback and responsive suspension. I don't want a buckboard and have fewer rather than more electronics. I want to feel like I'm controlling the car.

It doesn't have to be the fastest thing between stop lights. I think anything over 220 hp would probably put a smile on my face if the wait is commensurately below 3700 pounds.



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ferrari


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Meh.
Get a used Maserati which uses it's FIAT partner Ferrari's older engine block and transmissions, and save yourself $$$$.

Enjoy the ooh and ahhs from people who don't understand who think they're looking at some sort of exotic, but in reality what Buick is to GM - Maserati is to FCA. An overpriced wanna be with shit build quality.



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All this talk is making want to go out and buy and LS platform car. I don't think there is a much more well proven engine platform in the last 30 years than the LS.
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All this talk is making want to go out and buy and LS platform car. I don't think there is a much more well proven engine platform in the last 30 years than the LS.


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1999 Trans AM WS6, Long tubes, full exhaust, extra sexy
2006 GTO 6spd, 1 of 390 Silver, SLP LM1 (Sold)
2001 R1; blue, Yoshi slip on (sold Jan 12, 2012)
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My only problem is the LS is that it makes me wanna buy 5 polos with popped collars and rock bad 80s music. They just scream 'you are trying tooo hard'.


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I would stay away from the Mini's. The are a blast to drive, kind of like dating a crazy chick. They are stupid expensive to fix, way more expensive then they should be. They charge BMW prices for all their parts, mostly because they are BMW owned and they are not BMW's.


Yeah I am old enough to know better. Thing is, I just don't care.
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I would stay away from the Mini's. The are a blast to drive, kind of like dating a crazy chick. They are stupid expensive to fix, way more expensive then they should be. They charge BMW prices for all their parts, mostly because they are BMW owned and they are not BMW's.
Yeah. Minis are a shit show and less you can wrench on them yourselves. BMW totally threw the inexpensive and simple to fix ethos out the window and used their normal let's make things ungodly expensive because we can.
And they were not built by BMW which is even worse. Assembly was contracted to some third-party manufacturer in Poland or someplace in the eastern European nations not know for building quality anything.



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I know my prior statement on Minis, and my position still stands - however everything is taken in the context of cost vs. benefit.

For Sub $5K, I would give this some consideration as a weekend fun machine. Its already been tweaked and sorted.

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