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Title service laws have changed - Be informed
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Title service laws have changed - Be informed - October 28, 2010, 11:51 AM

It seems a lot of us are into or getting into old bikes. Some of them may not come with titles. Just a year ago titles were easy to get, you filled out a form, sign it, and mail it to Alabama with a $150 money order. Those good old days are gone. It now takes a lot of BS to get a vehicle titled and it now costs $375. Also laws in Virginia have changed and you can't even use this service anymore if you are a VA resident. A friend in MD or DC can request the title for you. Then they have to title in their state, then sell the bike to you for at least $1. The MD or DC title will transfer, the paper work the title service provides will not transfer to VA.

I have seen a few bikes on CL lately that are selling with no titles and the seller says they are easy to get and are cheap. Clearly they are not up to speed on the titling laws.

There are ways around just about anything but we won't discuss them on a public forum. Keep this in mind when buying a POS on CL with no title. If you are buying a $50 or $100 CB350 then it might be worth it but if you are paying $1000+ for it then it may not be worth it to fork out another $375 for a title. It's up to you of course but ultimately this increases the value for those of us with properly titled vintage machines. It's only going to get harder to get titles so if you need one, you better get it now.

Unfortunately I'm afraid this will cause more vintage cars/trucks/motorcycles to be scrapped or parted out. Yet another method the government is using to get vintage tin off the road.

I used this company in 2008 to title my Porsche 914 I bought. It was easy and cheap. Glad I did it then and didn't wait.

You can read more about the silly rules, hoops and general bullshit on this PDF
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October 28, 2010, 12:01 PM

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October 28, 2010, 12:13 PM

The abandoned vehicle method may work if the vehicle is titled in VA:

Commonwealth of Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles

I've never completed the process, but I started it one time in an effort to obtain the title for a E30 M3 that was abandoned on a friend's rental property. The process was halted when a tenant at the property (who was not the owner of the car) found out what I was doing and sold the car without a title and without my knowledge.

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October 28, 2010, 01:04 PM

you did make me look cause you know it affects me you silly goose!

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October 28, 2010, 02:18 PM

I've gotten to the point that a bike would have to be virtually free, unless the seller is standing next to the bike with a title in hand, before I'd even bother with it. Life is way too short to waste time, money, and heartache trying to get a title for a bike (or any vehicle). Craigslist is full of people selling bikes with dubious/non-existant titles/sketchy "bills of sale"....next please...
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October 28, 2010, 02:59 PM

we have to personally thank the thieves who try to beat the system and the government who are trying to solve the problem at our expense.

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October 28, 2010, 07:27 PM

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The abandoned vehicle method may work if the vehicle is titled in VA:

Commonwealth of Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles
Lots of time and trouble.
On the bright side, the value of frames with titles just went through the roof!

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December 29, 2010, 04:37 PM

I just posted this in a different thread and ran across this one. SO I'll post the same info:

I successfully completed the Virginia DMV's revamped "Abandoned Vehicle" title process today (12/29/10). The minimum time the process takes is 36 days if the vehicle had been previously titled in Virginia, possibly double that time if the vehicle was previously registered out of state. Cost, $25 for the process, $45 for the title only. The paperwork is not overwhelming, you're going to have to have an accurate vehicle identification number though. Make duplicate copies of ALL your paperwork. Take completed paperwork to a full service DMV (not a "DMV Select" location.) ..and become the proud new owner of an old vehicle. (Like me.)


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