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Are Toyotas that much better? - April 30, 2008, 09:23 PM

OK, so i'm still looking for a used pickup. I'm leaning toward a Toyota, but open to other manufacturers (such as Ford, Dodge, Chevy).

On Kelly Blue Book, I see that a 2000 Ford F150 Xcab, private-party value, is about $4,700 or so. A 1990 Toyota SR5 Xcab private-party is $3,600.

Is Toyota really that much better? That even a 10 year difference is just $1000 difference in vehicle pricing? I'm surprised Ford has such a poor resale value. I thought they made good trucks.
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April 30, 2008, 11:45 PM

No...they are not. Certainly not 1K while being 10 years older.

2000 had the modular motors and will run happily for in excess of 200K if properly maintained. My first one had over 150K and no issues when sold and the second one had 125K on it and also trouble free.

Hopefully the 2000 has the 5.4L option. Larger motor that I actually observed got better fuel economy than the smaller 4.6L didn't have to work nearly as hard.
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Ford is better NOW...after 20k job cuts,10 factory closings,etc......I still love the early 90's 4Runners...I grew up in that time.....memmmmmoriiiiieeeeessss


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You should checkout nissan. I have a 2002 frontier. I paid $13000 for two years ago. It had 40,000 on it. It has the phosgate sterio system and all the upgrades. My x had a 1991 240sx that now has 300000 miles on it and still running. They are very reliable vehicles. I grew up on chevys and fords. The problem I have with them. I'm my own mechanic. They seem to design them to make them twice as hard to workon. I have a 3 tier tool box filled cause of chevy and fords. So far I have only needed my 80 cresent set to work on the nissans


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If you are only looking at full size. I used to be a pipefitter. We used chevys and fords. We overloaded and overworked them. The fords had a better trani. The chevys had better suspensions. Be careful of the twin I beem front suspension on the ford. To aling it u have to heat and bend the metal. This takes away the tension strength losses alingment quick. Im shure they fixed that by now but I would research. but I would go with the chevy


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May 1, 2008, 06:15 AM

saw this a couple of days ago... pretty hilarious

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lrk6vsb77xk

"Top Gear: Killing a Toyota"


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Ta-Yota's are great. If your going with the later models, I'd suggest looking for the 22R engine, it's a capable 4 cyl. and cheap on gas, also almost impossible to kill.
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May 1, 2008, 09:34 AM

I'm in the same boat. Looking for a truck for around 5k. I was thinking about looking at toyota's mostly.

What's the towing capacity on them?


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If you guys are gonna do light towing as in a small trailer and 2 bikes get a v6. Anything more than that and you will need a v8. Since gas mileage is not a concern seeing as this will be a 2nd vechile look at Dodge also cause you can get them cheaper than chevy and ford. Try to get a long bed!


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If you guys are gonna do light towing as in a small trailer and 2 bikes get a v6. Anything more than that and you will need a v8. Since gas mileage is not a concern seeing as this will be a 2nd vechile look at Dodge also cause you can get them cheaper than chevy and ford. Try to get a long bed!
I was hoping to find something that could pull a boat out of the water w/trailer up a small incline. ~2,5k lb boat+ trailer. Would the V6 be able to do that?


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I was hoping to find something that could pull a boat out of the water w/trailer up a small incline. ~2,5k lb boat+ trailer. Would the V6 be able to do that?
Yea a v6 could but your gonna wish you had a v8. A v8 will also get better gas milage when loaded than a v6 since it does not have to work has hard. Also the older truck have lots of aftermarket mods to do to them.


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Toyota motors are renouned for thier longevity. I personally love mine, but I'd get a ford diesel too.

The ranger has nothing on the tacoma, though. Owned a ranger and explorer (aka exploder) and two tacomas and the Toyotas were worlds better.


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Yea a v6 could but your gonna wish you had a v8. A v8 will also get better gas milage when loaded than a v6 since it does not have to work has hard. Also the older truck have lots of aftermarket mods to do to them.
Not too concerned about gas milage towing the boat.. The boat isnt mine. I'd have to tow it probably 3-4 miles to sandy point and back. This isnt a dealbreaker for me, since i could just borrow the boat owners SUV to tow it. I just thought it would be nice to not have to borrow the boat ANDthe suv when i wanted to go fishing.

Primary use would be using it as a spare/utility vehicle. Eventually im going to start going doing trackdays. Probably 1-2 bikes max. I would be concerned about gas mileage here tho.

I was leaning towards a tacoma. It's the only truck i've had any experience with(friend had one). I'm about 1-1.5months away from actually starting the hunting process.


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May 1, 2008, 05:44 PM

OK, so these are the 2 that I am trying to decide between:

1990 Toyota SR5 4x4 V6, Xcab, manual, 6 ft bed, 144k miles

2000 Ford F150 4 door (which is nice) Xcab, manual, 4.2L engine, 2x4, 6 ft bed, 180K

Both are about $4400.

I kinda like the toyota better but I dunno about that 10 year difference.
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