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VA Safety Inspection for cars - December 18, 2012, 01:32 PM

My bikes are all put away for the winter, so now I'm messing with my cars. I have a 2001 Saleen that just failed safety inspection because supposedly it's missing catalytic converters. It has a Bassani SS cat back system on it, but I guess the catalytic converter is separate. Just to reiterate, this is the safety inspection I failed, NOT emissions.

I don't know much about cars, can you fail for not having a catalytic converter? Wouldn't a cat back exhaust system have them?

How hard/expensive is it to install a high flow cat converter? My car has 800 hp to the crank and ~625 to the wheels, so I don't really wanna mess with anything unless I have to.

Does anyone here have enough mechanical know how to install a cat system? I suppose it doesn't have to be on there for long, just enough to get me through inspection.

If anyone works at an inspection station, or knows somebody that can "point me in the right direction" I'm willing to pay, generously.


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December 18, 2012, 02:47 PM

Go to another station, seriously!

It really depends on the catback system. It is possible that the one you have did in fact eliminated the main cats. Mounting a catalytic converter (or two in your case) its not hard. The questions is, does your catback allows for main cats to be installed? Or do you need a different cat back that allows the installation of cats?

On to the trying a different station. Last year, I went to a station, and this fool grabs a tape measurer and measures the aftermarket steering wheel on my car. He automatically said that the steering wheel is smaller and that he will fail the car if I proceeded with the test. Went straight up to another station, where the dude did not mentioned anything about the steering wheel, but said that he will fail the vehicle because I removed the power steering system. I then drove to a third station, and got the vehicle inspected without any hassle

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December 18, 2012, 02:48 PM

I thought the cat stuff had nothing to do with the safety inspection

Go to a diffeerent shop. I had no issues with my vette.


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December 18, 2012, 06:29 PM

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I thought the cat stuff had nothing to do with the safety inspection

Go to a diffeerent shop. I had no issues with my vette.

It is not, but they can fail you for not having them. If the car came with them from the factory, you must have them at the time of the inspection.
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December 18, 2012, 09:05 PM

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It is not, but they can fail you for not having them. If the car came with them from the factory, you must have them at the time of the inspection.

Do you know if it's standard to check for those, or did I just go to a strict shop?


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December 18, 2012, 11:10 PM

You can get cat's, empty them out and weld those on with minimal interference to the tune. You could also split some cat shells and weld them around your pipes but that could be tight on clearances. Also don't the 01 stangs have 4 cats? It could be a hassle to do so if they do and not worth failing again and again.


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December 18, 2012, 11:12 PM

I use a shell station off rt 28 and while they certainly won't pass you if something is illegal they will certainly tell you what you need. The guy that runs the place is named Hal and he has a couple good techs and inspectors. I had them tell me what what needed to pass emissions and they gave good information about safety. Dulles Shell Service Center and Food Mart - Sterling Virginia give them a call and ask what the req's are before you go in, they're real honest.


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Do you know if it's standard to check for those, or did I just go to a strict shop?

I guess they are becoming stricter nowdays. Couple of years ago, they wouldnt care for petty stuff. It all boils down to the inspector. Avoid big chain stations, like midas or similar, and stay away from locations with high traffic volume.

Noticed that I am only providing info on my own experiences, and I dont work for the state, nor have any legal knowledge of the system. My google kunfu is weak today, cause I cant find the info about the power steering. Here's what I found:

Virginia State Police - Safety Division

1. - REMOVE OLD INSPECTION STICKER.
2. - DRIVE VEHICLE INTO INSPECTION LANE.

3. - INSPECT BRAKES FOR:
  • Worn, damaged or missing parts.
  • Worn, contaminated or defective linings or drums.
  • Leakage in system and proper fluid level.
  • Worn, contaminated or defective disc pads or disc rotors.
    (NOTE: A minimum of two wheels and drums must be removed from each vehicle at the time of inspection. Consult the “Official Motor Vehicle Safety Inspection Manual” for exceptions.)
4. - INSPECT PARKING BRAKE FOR:
  • Broken or missing parts.
  • Proper adjustment.
  • Standard factory equipment or equivalent.
5. - INSPECT HEADLIGHTS FOR:
  • Approved type, aim and output.
  • Condition of lamps, lenses, wiring and switch.
  • High beam indicator.
6. - INSPECT OTHER LIGHTS FOR:
  • Approved type, proper bulbs, and condition of lenses, wiring and switch.
  • Aim of fog and driving lamps.
  • Illumination of all lamps and proper color of lenses.
    (NOTE: Every vehicle must have a rear lamp showing a red light to the rear, a white light illuminating the rear license plate; vehicles over 7 feet wide or extending 4 inches or more beyond the front fender extremes must be equipped with approved clearance lamps and reflex reflectors. (Include load when measuring.)
7. – INSPECT SIGNAL DEVICE FOR:
  • Approved type, proper bulbs, and condition of lenses, wiring and switch.
  • Correct operation of device.
  • Illumination of all lamps and proper lens color.
8. – INSPECT STEERING & SUSPENSION FOR:

(Jack up front end as shown in “Official Motor Vehicle Safety Inspection Manual”.)
  • Wear in bushings, kingpins, ball joints, wheel bearings and tie rod ends.
  • Looseness of gear box on frame, condition of drag link and steering arm.
  • Play in steering wheel; leakage of power steering fluid in the system.
  • Wheel alignment and axle alignment.
  • Broken coil springs, spring leaves and worn shackles.
  • Shock absorbers.
  • Broken or weakened frame.
  • Broken or missing engine mounts.
  • Lift blocks.
9. – INSPECT TIRES, WHEELS & RIMS FOR:
  • Condition of tires including tread depth.
  • Mixing radials and bias ply tires.
  • Wheels that are cracked or damaged so as to affect safe operation.
10. – INSPECT MIRRORS FOR:
  • Rigidity of mounting.
  • Condition of reflecting surface.
  • Check for road visibility 200 feet to the rear. (Truck mirrors must extend at least halfway beyond edge of body.)
11. – INSPECT HORN FOR:
  • Electrical connections, mounting and horn button.
  • Emits sound audible for a minimum of 200 feet.
12. – INSPECT WINDSHIELD AND OTHER GLASS FOR:
  • Approved type safety glass.
  • Cloudiness, distortion or other obstruction to vision.
  • Cracked, scratched or broken glass.
  • ALL UNAUTHORIZED STICKERS MUST BE REMOVED.
  • Sun shading material on windshield displaying words, lettering, numbers or pictures that does not extend below the AS-1 line is permitted. In the absence of an AS-1 line, sun shading material on the windshield displaying words, lettering, numbers or pictures cannot extend more than three inches downward from the top of the windshield, unless authorized by the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles and indicated on the vehicle registration.
  • Operation of left front door glass.
13. – INSPECT WINDSHIELD WIPER/DEFROSTER FOR:
  • Operating condition.
  • Condition of wiper blades.
14. – INSPECT EXHAUST SYSTEM FOR:
  • Exhaust line: manifold, gaskets, pipes, mufflers, connections, etc.
  • Leakage of gases at any point from engine to point discharged from system.
15. – INSPECT REAR LICENSE PLATE FOR:
  • Illumination of rear plate.
16. – INSPECT HOOD AND AREA UNDER THE HOOD FOR:
  • Operating condition of hood latch.
  • Presence of emissions system; evidence that any essential parts have been removed, rendered inoperative or disconnected.
  • Fluid levels that are below the proper level:
    (a) Brake fluid.
    (b) Power steering fluid.
  • Power steering belt; proper tension, wear or absence of belt.
17. – INSPECT AIR POLLUTION CONTROL SYSTEM OF 1973 AND SUBSEQUENT MODELS FOR:
  • Installation.
  • No parts removed, disconnected or rendered inoperable.
    (NOTE: This includes the catalytic converter and the fuel tank filler pipe.)
18. – INSPECT DRIVER’S SEAT FOR:
  • Anchorage.
  • Location.
  • Condition.
19. – INSPECT SEAT BELTS FOR:
  • Approved type.
  • Installation.
  • Condition.
20. – INSPECT AIR BAG AND AIRBAG READINESS LIGHT FOR:
  • Any defects in the air bag system noted by the air bag readiness light, or otherwise indicated; or
  • The air bag has been deployed and has not been replaced (and is not deactivated because of a medical or other exemption and a notice is posted to indicate that it has been deactivated); or
  • Any part of the air bag system has been removed from the vehicle; or
  • If the air bag indicator fails to light or stays on continuously.
21. – INSPECT DOORS AT THE RIGHT & LEFT SIDE OF THE DRIVER’S SEAT FOR:
  • Handle or opening device which will permit the opening of the door from the outside and inside of the vehicle.
  • Latching system which will hold door in its proper closed position.
22. – INSPECT FUEL SYSTEM FOR:
  • Any part that is not securely fastened.
  • Liquid fuel leakage.
  • Fuel tank filler cap for presence.
23. – INSPECT FLOOR PAN FOR:
  • Holes which allow exhaust gases to enter occupant compartment.
  • Conditions which create a hazard to the occupants.
24. – ISSUE STICKER:
  • If approved, place completed approval sticker on the vehicle and give the receipt of certificate to the operator.
  • ALL DEFECTS MUST BE CORRECTED AND THE VEHICLE REINSPECTED WITHIN 15 DAYS. THE DRIVER MAY BE SUBJECT TO RECEIVING A TRAFFIC SUMMONS FOR ANY DEFECT STILL PRESENT WHEN THE VEHICLE IS OPERATED ON THE HIGHWAY.

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24. – ISSUE STICKER:
  • If approved, place completed approval sticker on the vehicle and give the receipt of certificate to the operator.
  • ALL DEFECTS MUST BE CORRECTED AND THE VEHICLE REINSPECTED WITHIN 15 DAYS. THE DRIVER MAY BE SUBJECT TO RECEIVING A TRAFFIC SUMMONS FOR ANY DEFECT STILL PRESENT WHEN THE VEHICLE IS OPERATED ON THE HIGHWAY.
Damn all this time I thought if you got a pink fail sticker you had 15 days to correct and could drive your car without worrying about a ticket.



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December 19, 2012, 08:22 AM

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My bikes are all put away for the winter, so now I'm messing with my cars. I have a 2001 Saleen that just failed safety inspection because supposedly it's missing catalytic converters. It has a Bassani SS cat back system on it, but I guess the catalytic converter is separate. Just to reiterate, this is the safety inspection I failed, NOT emissions.

I don't know much about cars, can you fail for not having a catalytic converter? Wouldn't a cat back exhaust system have them?

How hard/expensive is it to install a high flow cat converter? My car has 800 hp to the crank and ~625 to the wheels, so I don't really wanna mess with anything unless I have to.

Does anyone here have enough mechanical know how to install a cat system? I suppose it doesn't have to be on there for long, just enough to get me through inspection.

If anyone works at an inspection station, or knows somebody that can "point me in the right direction" I'm willing to pay, generously.
Post up your issue at Northern Virginia Mustang Club (NVMC) and see if there are any hook ups there.

Otherwise, take your car to Lincolnia automotive in Alexandria. The owner is into cars - has a 2010 Camaro SS and used to own a 1st gen F-bdoy (69 maybe?). He will either hook you up or point you in the right direction.
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December 19, 2012, 12:26 PM

Thanks everybody for the help and input, much appreciated!


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