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Cool Video Rendering and Uploading to Youtube settings. - September 5, 2013, 03:23 AM

Ok so It took me forever and 4 videos and 2 days to find the right quality to upload, but I have a feeling I am still creating a file too big or something.

Here is the stats...

19 minute video
1280x720 .MOV file
3.1 GB in size.

The out put settings are:

Compressor: H.264
Millions of colors
Frame size 1280x720 } 16:9
Frame rate 29.97 fps
Pixel Aspect Ration (Square Pixels (1.0)
NO limit on data rate
Progressive scan....

do 12 hours up load time over DSL sound right for a 3GB video?
Also is 3GB big for a 19 min vid?


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Yep 3GB is HUGE for a 19 minute video @ 1280x720
I'm not a video guy by any means so hopefully someone else will chime in.
My guess is it's the No limit on the Data Rate. H.264 compression should be good, the FPS looks fine too.
Yeah your upload speed sucks BALLS!!! A 1.5Mbps upload would upload 8.1GB MAX in 12 hours, your looking at less than half that, so my guess is your upload is rated at 768kbps and then the overhead of TCP/IP is bumping it down to what you see. Go test your line Speedtest.net by Ookla - The Global Broadband Speed Test and see what that comes back at.

FWIW a 27:45 file off my contour @ 1280x720 is 1.5GB


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Way to big......I have three movies on my Iphone right now and the largest one is 360 megs.

Are you specifically trying to maintain you aspect ratio/screen size?

If nothing else you can save some file size by dropping the physical screen size.

Beyond that I would try outputing it as an FLV or an MPEG4 file. If your on PC WMV is always great to get things down to a workable size. Not knowing your set up it is hard to recommend specific settings since the compression settings I use in After Effects versus something like Final Cut Pro or Premiere are different.

Worse come to worse if there is somewhere you can post the file that I can download I can compress it for you.

At 19 minutes your file is not going to but super small but 3.1 gigs is silly big.


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I use to do shitloads of videos from 2002 to 2007 so I just got back into it since I cop two contour cameras. I use to use Pinnical Systems Movie maker, but it had so many issues...had version 7, 8 and 9...this go round I said fuck it and got Adobe Premire Elements 7 (got it in 2008 ) and never used it (now someone stole it from my house). Anyway learned the program and made it like my old Gunn Runnaz video style wise...
The difference is how big you can make Videos now. So this one is the 3rd one I saved and compressed but god....over 13 hours is killing me.

I put one on the back (just got a front mount) and took it out right before dark to test the image for night footage.


depending on when you watch...it is still rendering and I have to make it mobile accessible...

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Yep 3GB is HUGE for a 19 minute video @ 1280x720
I'm not a video guy by any means so hopefully someone else will chime in.
My guess is it's the No limit on the Data Rate. H.264 compression should be good, the FPS looks fine too.
Yeah your upload speed sucks BALLS!!! A 1.5Mbps upload would upload 8.1GB MAX in 12 hours, your looking at less than half that, so my guess is your upload is rated at 768kbps and then the overhead of TCP/IP is bumping it down to what you see. Go test your line Speedtest.net by Ookla - The Global Broadband Speed Test and see what that comes back at.

FWIW a 27:45 file off my contour @ 1280x720 is 1.5GB

I went to the Youtube recomended upload page....and they did offer some sizes for bitrate, but I left it alone...I might try this again. Or just make another test video. Im going on a bike night tour so Ill film.
Also will try out the speed tester.


This sucks right?




https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/1722171?rd=1



Advanced encoding settings

Recommended bitrates, codecs, and resolutions, and more
Container: .mp4

No Edit Lists (or you may lose AV sync)
moov atom at the front of the file (Fast Start)
Audio Codec: AAC-LC

Channels: Stereo or Stereo + 5.1
Sample rate 96khz or 48 khz
Video Codec: H.264

Progressive scan (no interlacing)
High Profile
2 consecutive B frames
Closed GOP. GOP of half the frame rate.
CABAC
Variable bitrate. No bitrate limit required, though we offer recommended bit rates below for reference
Color Space: 4.2.0
Frame rates

Frame rates should match the source material. For example, content shot in 24fps should be encoded and uploaded at 24fps. Content recorded at 30fps should be uploaded at 30fps. Content shot in 720p60, should be uploaded at 720p60. Content at 1080i 60, should be deinterlaced, going from 60 interlaced fields per second to 30 progressive frames per second before uploading.
Bitrates

Standard quality uploads
Type Video Bitrate Mono Audio Bitrate Stereo Audio Bitrate 5.1 Audio Bitrate
1080p 8,000 kbps 128 kbps 384 kbps 512 kbps
720p 5,000 kbps 128 kbps 384 kbps 512 kbps
480p 2,500 kbps 64 kbps 128 kbps 196 kbps
360p 1,000 kbps 64 kbps 128 kbps 196 kbps
High quality uploads for creators with enterprise quality internet connections

Type Video Bitrate Mono Audio Bitrate Stereo Audio Bitrate 5.1 Audio Bitrate
1080p 50,000 kbps 128 kbps 384 kbps 512 kbps
720p 30,000 kbps 128 kbps 384 kbps 512 kbps
480p 15,000 kbps 128 kbps 384 kbps 512 kbps
360p 5,000 kbps 128 kbps 384 kbps 512 kbps
Resolutions

YouTube uses 16:9 aspect ratio players. If you are uploading a non-16:9 file, it will be processed and displayed correctly as well, with pillar boxes (black bars on the left and right) or letter boxes (black bars at the top and bottom) provided by the player. If you want to fit the player perfectly, encode at these resolutions:

1080p: 1920x1080
720p: 1280x720
480p: 854x480
360p: 640x360
240p: 426x240
The YouTube player automatically adds black bars so that videos are displayed correctly without cropping or stretching, no matter the size of the video or the player.

For example, the player will automatically add pillarboxing to 4:3 videos in the new 16:9 widescreen player size. If the player is re-sized (i.e. when embedded on another website), the same process takes place so that 16:9 videos are letterboxed when the player is sized to 4:3. Similarly, anamorphic videos will be automatically letterboxed when shown in either 16:9 or 4:3 sized players. The player can only do this if the native aspect ratio of the video is maintained.

You can adjust the fit of your video in our player after uploading your video by using formatting tags.

If letterboxing is added to a video before it is uploaded (i.e. in the case of creating a 4:3 video from a 16:9 master), the widescreen player will add pillarbox bars too, resulting in black bars all around the video (windowboxing) and a bad viewing experience (see the diagram below).

How to do it




Upload a 16:9 video at its original aspect ratio (1280x720 recommended) Video fills the YouTube widescreen 16x9 player. Nice job!

Upload a 4:3 video at its original aspect ratio (640x480 recommended) Video is displayed in the widescreen player at the right size and ratio with letterbox bars. Looks pretty sweet!
How not to do it


Add letterbox bars to the top and bottom before uploading so that the video fits a 4:3 player The YouTube player adds pillarbox bars left and right to the 4:3 video fit widescreen. Bars surround the video. Boo!
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September 5, 2013, 02:45 PM

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I went to the Youtube recomended upload page....and they did offer some sizes for bitrate, but I left it alone...I might try this again. Or just make another test video. Im going on a bike night tour so Ill film.
Also will try out the speed tester.


This sucks right?




https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/1722171?rd=1



Advanced encoding settings

Recommended bitrates, codecs, and resolutions, and more
Container: .mp4

No Edit Lists (or you may lose AV sync)
moov atom at the front of the file (Fast Start)
Audio Codec: AAC-LC

Channels: Stereo or Stereo + 5.1
Sample rate 96khz or 48 khz
Video Codec: H.264

Progressive scan (no interlacing)
High Profile
2 consecutive B frames
Closed GOP. GOP of half the frame rate.
CABAC
Variable bitrate. No bitrate limit required, though we offer recommended bit rates below for reference
Color Space: 4.2.0
Frame rates

Frame rates should match the source material. For example, content shot in 24fps should be encoded and uploaded at 24fps. Content recorded at 30fps should be uploaded at 30fps. Content shot in 720p60, should be uploaded at 720p60. Content at 1080i 60, should be deinterlaced, going from 60 interlaced fields per second to 30 progressive frames per second before uploading.
Bitrates

Standard quality uploads
Type Video Bitrate Mono Audio Bitrate Stereo Audio Bitrate 5.1 Audio Bitrate
1080p 8,000 kbps 128 kbps 384 kbps 512 kbps
720p 5,000 kbps 128 kbps 384 kbps 512 kbps
480p 2,500 kbps 64 kbps 128 kbps 196 kbps
360p 1,000 kbps 64 kbps 128 kbps 196 kbps
High quality uploads for creators with enterprise quality internet connections

Type Video Bitrate Mono Audio Bitrate Stereo Audio Bitrate 5.1 Audio Bitrate
1080p 50,000 kbps 128 kbps 384 kbps 512 kbps
720p 30,000 kbps 128 kbps 384 kbps 512 kbps
480p 15,000 kbps 128 kbps 384 kbps 512 kbps
360p 5,000 kbps 128 kbps 384 kbps 512 kbps
Resolutions

YouTube uses 16:9 aspect ratio players. If you are uploading a non-16:9 file, it will be processed and displayed correctly as well, with pillar boxes (black bars on the left and right) or letter boxes (black bars at the top and bottom) provided by the player. If you want to fit the player perfectly, encode at these resolutions:

1080p: 1920x1080
720p: 1280x720
480p: 854x480
360p: 640x360
240p: 426x240
The YouTube player automatically adds black bars so that videos are displayed correctly without cropping or stretching, no matter the size of the video or the player.

For example, the player will automatically add pillarboxing to 4:3 videos in the new 16:9 widescreen player size. If the player is re-sized (i.e. when embedded on another website), the same process takes place so that 16:9 videos are letterboxed when the player is sized to 4:3. Similarly, anamorphic videos will be automatically letterboxed when shown in either 16:9 or 4:3 sized players. The player can only do this if the native aspect ratio of the video is maintained.

You can adjust the fit of your video in our player after uploading your video by using formatting tags.

If letterboxing is added to a video before it is uploaded (i.e. in the case of creating a 4:3 video from a 16:9 master), the widescreen player will add pillarbox bars too, resulting in black bars all around the video (windowboxing) and a bad viewing experience (see the diagram below).

How to do it




Upload a 16:9 video at its original aspect ratio (1280x720 recommended) Video fills the YouTube widescreen 16x9 player. Nice job!

Upload a 4:3 video at its original aspect ratio (640x480 recommended) Video is displayed in the widescreen player at the right size and ratio with letterbox bars. Looks pretty sweet!
How not to do it


Add letterbox bars to the top and bottom before uploading so that the video fits a 4:3 player The YouTube player adds pillarbox bars left and right to the 4:3 video fit widescreen. Bars surround the video. Boo!

Dude, I'm pretty sure dial-up is faster than that...


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LOL yeah that is not fast at all

I'd start with these setting you listed

720p 5,000 kbps 128 kbps 384 kbps 512 kbps

I think you could get away with a lower thank 5,000 kbps though, honestly I'd say start at like 4,000 ALSO a huge thing I just thought of My Adobe Vegas will encode in vbr (variable bit rate) you set the max of say 5,000 and then it uses the lowest it can based on that specific frame, if your software can do that it should help tremendously.


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LOL yeah that is not fast at all

I'd start with these setting you listed

720p 5,000 kbps 128 kbps 384 kbps 512 kbps

I think you could get away with a lower thank 5,000 kbps though, honestly I'd say start at like 4,000 ALSO a huge thing I just thought of My Adobe Vegas will encode in vbr (variable bit rate) you set the max of say 5,000 and then it uses the lowest it can based on that specific frame, if your software can do that it should help tremendously.
fucking Verizon....I think they are just trying to force me into FIOS....shit use to be way faster...then they started spamming me on a weekly basis for the last 2 years about Fios...then they raised up my DSL from $19 a month to $50 and then send ads saying only $9 more for Fios (for the first year then $79 a month after).....

But I do not want to keep paying more and my parents have Fios and say it sucks.

Anyway, so you use a separate program to encode the video afterwards?

I am using Adobe Premier Elements 7 to create and encode....
I was wondering if I could use Adobe After Effect to add some salt to my projects.


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I dump video from the contour, then use Sony Vegas to trim, add music and overlay the multiple cams if I run more than one. I like Vegas and it ess only $99


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I dump video from the contour, then use Sony Vegas to trim, add music and overlay the multiple cams if I run more than one. I like Vegas and it ess only $99
B4 I brought Pinicale systems back in the day...Sony Vega was on the high list of good Programs.
I was going to get it back in 2008 and that's when Premier elements 7 came out and the word was it was the closes thing to Final Cut Pro and iMovie at the time....so I jump on it for $90.

Ive rendered 3 more movies...the Mpeg-4 setting always make the images dark and a little bit square. H.264 comes out smooth, decent light but big as fuck...

the only problem with H.264 is that it will not allow you to adjust the bit rate. but image is good....and this is the one I uploaded....

Also the Mpeg 4 at 1280x720 are still 3GB ....Mpeg-4 with 5000 kb bit rate are 1.8GB but the image is the worst..


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But I do not want to keep paying more and my parents have Fios and say it sucks.

Anyway, so you use a separate program to encode the video afterwards?

I am using Adobe Premier Elements 7 to create and encode....
I was wondering if I could use Adobe After Effect to add some salt to my projects.
Dunno, I have fios, but I dont know anything about video editing and stuff so i just literally take my videos from my gopro and straight upload them to youtube. They are about 3.5 gigs for around 17 minutes of video, takes about 20 minutes to upload per video
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Dunno, I have fios, but I dont know anything about video editing and stuff so i just literally take my videos from my gopro and straight upload them to youtube. They are about 3.5 gigs for around 17 minutes of video, takes about 20 minutes to upload per video
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Ive made about 9 videos now and shit is not getting smaller and when I do manage to get it smaller...it comes out looking like shit...

I did it under
Microsoft AVI
and used the compressor for Xvid Mpeg-4
no limt data rate and
no recompress....
garbage....

this Premire is 2008...it had a built in "Upload to youtube" feature, but it was for old size 320 and only 10 minutes.....
now Im wondering if i should get Adobe Premier ELements 11 update to see if it have more setting for streaming 1280x720p vids...


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